City workers salaries

studentphil

Ted_Bloke wrote:

That is not a very philosopical point though.

Hume himself even thought you stopped being deeply philosophical once you started thinking about day to day things.

Gabriel-Ernest

studentphil wrote:

Because I think too much out of the box for them.

Speaking honestly, Phil, I get the impression on here that you don't think deeply enough on any given subject. That's not meant to insult you, but that may well be the impression you would give at interview. If the choice is between a conformist and a nonconformist, personally I employ the nonconformist, as I've said before; I spend a huge chunk of my waking life with my colleagues and I want someone who can be fully-engaged with the work, understand why it's necessary, be prepared to make suggestions for team efficiency/improvement, and who won't bore me to death. In my particular company, we tend not to take recent graduates and those with no job experience; it's the larger financial institutions who have graduate programmes. For example, I'll be recruiting another team member soon via agencies, and part of the job spec will be 2 years experience in the City. A philosophy degree would be an asset, but personality and experience would swing it for me.

I think when the time comes for you to jobhunt, you could do worse than attend a course on interview technique/presentation skills; it's going to be your hardest challenge, and it will stand you in good stead whichever industry you aim for. You've said you wouldn't consider the City, and I think you're probably right on that one.

Gabriel-Ernest

studentphil wrote:

They are narrow minded in the fristly as they wont look at you without ace school results.

No, not narrow-minded - choosy because they can afford to be with the numbers applying. They'll select the best.

Gabriel-Ernest

studentphil wrote:

I look on Reed everyday at jobs and the only jobs in my areas are recruitment consultants.

Reed are not typically an agency used in the City. Companies use more specialist agencies like Badenoch & Clarke.

Imelda

Phil a philosophy degree would be valued, I have a Classics degree, it's not exactly useful! It does show that I have an eye for detail and ability to analyse information though. It set me apart from the business/ economics/ maths grads and I believe I got interviews on the back of it alone.

IvanOpinion

Phil I still do not believe that your persona on this board is real but, taking it at face value and in good faith ... STOP TALkING YOURSELF DOWN .. if you do that in an interview they will immediately put a big cross beside your name and only continue out of politeness. Concentrate on positives and think of ways of rephrasing negatives into positives .. you have to prove to them that you have something worthwhile to bring to the table .. and don't start your working life by trying to aim above your station ... go for something you know you can do and then a few months later start moving up

AnD for goodness sake get a life .. typing away on this board is not helping you one little bit apart from possibly massaging your ego.

Ivan

Gabriel-Ernest

I think this thread shows that Phil has Woody-Allen-itis; in 'Annie Hall,' Allen paraphrases Groucho Marx as saying 'I wouldn't want to be a member of any club that would have someone like me as a member'

studentphil

I do have many skills and abilities (I think I do anyway) and whilst they probably are not as impressive as a BA in Business or a BSc in computing, I can still be very useful to someone.

I am not sure what sector/ industry I will end up working in but there surely must be one that suits me.

skintchick

Thought I'd join in:

My brother works in the City, not as a trader, but with the traders. He's a management accountant for one of the banks.

He earns very good money - he stopped telling us when it got above 60k - he owns three properties, a boat and an Evo.

He has load sof money and gets massive bonuses.

He also worked 14 hours days, is permanently stressed and ill, and has no life.

hobbies, Phil?? they don;t have time for hobbies! My bro barely has time to SLEEP.

He earns his money - I don;t envy him at all because I prefer to have a life.

Is it greed? Maybe. But they get paid for doing a job many of us couldn;t cope with, physically if not academically/mentally, and at the end of teh day, none of us would work for free.

They get compensated for what they put in - most burn out in their 30s and go and do something else.

You certainly couldn;t do it SP, not in a million years. Nor could I, and I am more intelligent and robust than you.

As for commuting - my bro bought a flat in Canary Whrf because he works such long hours he doesn;t have TIME to commute. He has been known to sleep in the office.

You up for that kind of life? If not, then shut up, because you don;t know the half of it.

Quasar

Well put skinty! People think that some workers get a lot of money just because well, the money is there. Not so. They get that money because they have what it takes and are prepared to put it to use. That goes for intellect, emotion, stamina and sacrifice of everything for the job.

I would not want to do that sort of work for anything, because I'm the kind of person who likes to take time out to watch a beautiful sunset, for example.