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  • Sarah54D
    Sarah54D Posts: 6 Forumite
    edited 26 January 2020 at 7:37PM
    Would you recommend replacing an electric panel heater with a storage heater? I have recently moved into a 2 bed all electric flat with an economy 7 meter. I had a VonHaus 2000W glass panel heater in one of the rooms which suddenly stopped working. Electrician advised me to buy a replacement. I am unsure whether to replace it with another panel heater. This time a 1500w as according to some online calculators I only need 1122w to heat up the room. This should hopefully help in reducing my bill slightly ?

    Is it worth installing a storage heater or just stick to another panel heater? I have kept the VonHaus 2000w panel heater in the other room, along with a smaller one in the corridor.

    Whilst considering the above I am also thinking of switching to a single rate tariff. I don’t have an economy 7 water immersion heater. Previous owner removed the water cyclinder and installed a galaxy unvented instant hot water heater and a Dafi instant hot water. (Which only seems to produce hot water for a few minutes a day if that- so I need to replace this too).

    I just moved from EDF to bulb to try to save some money. I do use most of my electricity during the day (well after 7pm weekdays) so I am thinking of switching to the single tariff but I worked out it will only be a few pounds cheaper a month.

    Current rates and usage for last bill covering 36 days
    Bulb rates
    Day rate 15.29 per kWh used 765kwh £116.97
    Night rate 7.46 per KWH 210 KWH £15.67
    Standing charge 20.44p per day £7.36
    Total usage 975KWH so only 22% usage at night
    I estimate £116.67 bill for 30 days

    I estimate the above usage would cost me about £111.83 single rate tariff (13.0095p per KWH and 20.4435 standing charge).

    They also have smart meter which has 3 rates which I estimated would be £107.20 for above usage over 30 days. (12.19p per KWH during off peak, 29.75p per KWH during peak time and overnight rate of 7.45p per kWh. Standing charge 20.44pm). Peak rate is during 4pm to 7pm and I am never home at this time unless at the weekend. My housemate is sometimes home by 6pm so I have factored a few hours usage during the peak time. Most of my usage will be during off peak time 7am to 4pm and 7pm to 11pm or during the overnight rate 11pm to 7am.

    I am thinking of giving it another month before possibly switching to the single tariff rate or the smart meter.

    Would appreciate your thoughts. I am new to this and have spent the better part of this weekend scrolling through the forum. I have learnt soo much!
  • Gerry1
    Gerry1 Posts: 10,848 Forumite
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    edited 26 January 2020 at 9:07PM
    Are you an owner or a tenant?

    BTW, this would be better as a new thread because it doesn't relate to Fischer heaters.
  • I am a homeowner.

    Thanks I will create a new thread also. However, it somewhat relates to Fischer storage heaters as I was considering purchasing one or a storage heater.

    Thanks
  • matelodave
    matelodave Posts: 9,083 Forumite
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    FISCHER ARE NOT STORAGE HEATERS - do not be persuaded otherwise.

    They use energy to keep warm during the peak rate periods, they do not store energy during E7 periods like a proper storage heater does.

    Please read this thread very carefully otherwise you are in danger of making an extremely expensive mistake.

    You will get the same amount of heat for the same amount of energy out of an equivalent sized heater from Argos or B&Q as you will from a Fischer, Rointe or any other magic heater costing 5-10 times as much.
    Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large numbers
  • Thanks is there another type of electric heater you would advise to consider?
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,060 Forumite
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    Sarah54D wrote: »
    Thanks is there another type of electric heater you would advise to consider?


    It depends on your requirement for heat, and cosmetic preferences.


    A plug-in Fan heater for £10, or a basic oil filled radiator for £20 will give out EXACTLY the same amount of heat for the same amount of electricity consumed - and hence cost the same to run - as a 'magic' heater which can cost up to £2,000 - If the[STRIKE] expert[/STRIKE] salesman can get away with that price.



    There is absolutely no need for anyone to visit to check amount of heat required. If your heater is too powerful, it has a thermostat and turns output down automatically.


    For £200 -£300 you can get radiators with every facility included remote WI-Fi control. Just think of the luxury of being able to control the heater in your house whilst on holiday in Outer Mongolia.
  • As an aside but relevant. I hope the Fischer Storage (not true) Heater thread and it's 697 posts and their contents do not "disappear" with the impending MSE forum move!

    This sub forum has been the saviour of many poor souls about to commit to Fischer's speciality selling techniques. This sub forum is the only available repository of information for individuals on these islands to access.
    Disclaimer : Everything I write on this forum is my opinion. I try to be an even-handed poster and accept that you at times may not agree with these opinions or how I choose to express them, this is not my problem. The Disabled : If years cannot be added to their lives, at least life can be added to their years - Alf Morris - ℜ
  • A lot of noise about German heaters from companies set up in the UK. Back in the very old days what made these heaters popular was the service by Germans. Now a days we don't have this real German service. You only need to look at google reviews about some of these companies from all nationality that have mushroomed in the UK who sell these heaters without the true German connection. The after sales service is non existent. Check out trustpilot, when customer complaints there is always an argumentative defence. There is one company out there, (can't remember their name) who charges a massive £150.00 call out to put things right during the guarantee period. Oh yes it came to me now, its Fischer future heat who charge a £150.00 call out. What a joke. I had a call out from one of the high street store to have a look at my tv under the guarantee....no charge. Morrison are doing a 2000kw heater for £25.00, running cost will be the same as these expensive so called German assembled heaters.

    All my post on this site are my opinion.

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  • Gerry1
    Gerry1 Posts: 10,848 Forumite
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    xinstaller wrote: »
    Morrison are doing a 2000kw heater for £25.00, running cost will be the same as these expensive so called German assembled heaters.
    The running cost will be zero: 8333 amps will blow your main fuse pretty quickly ! biglaugh.gif
  • True Gerry 1, meant 2kw morrison heater £25.00
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