Public Sector. Good or Bad?

Old_Slaphead

Thank you MacMickster - that's the first one I've seen despite extensive searching.

It is casual - I'd be interested to know why the 'food and beverage assistant' gets £6.60ph and the casual one only £6.08ph but it does have PRP and free leisure club membership which presumable add further value - but nevertheless I stand corrected.

I'll now have to restrict my comments to 'non casual' public servants (without PRP)

FWIW re.your comments on £7 minimum - 90% of our factory earn less than that (and, I suspect, many of them work a damn sight harder that pouring out a few cups of tea) - it's the only way we can compete with foreign imports.....the alternative is more on the unemployed register.

nb it's called the real world !

Really2

MacMickster wrote: »

So you need corroborative evidence?


Casual food & Beverage Assistants
Employer
Borough of Broxbourne
Reference
CA
Published
Wed 28/09/2011 16:35 PM
Closing Date
Wed 12/10/2011 23:59 PM
Organisation
Borough of Broxbourne
Coverage
· Hertfordshire, Eastern (inc. Herts and Essex)
Working Pattern
Part Time, Permanent position
Hours
Casual
Salary
£6.08 per hour
CRB Check
No
Location
EN8 9XQ


It is true that many pay scales in the public sector start at a few pence per hour above the National Minimum Wage, but I would still argue that earning £7 per week above the absolute minimum is still a minimum wage job.

Although pension schemes are available, and there would be an employer's contribution, many earning these rates can't afford to belong to the pension schemes so don't benefit from those contributions.

It would seem to indicate it would be fairly easy to earn more than that though and that the package is better than just the minimum wage at the start also in terms of value.

Cheshunt Park Golf Course
We are also looking for casual staff to work as and when required on an ad hoc basis.
Applicants must be flexible, enthusiastic and friendly and be able to demonstrate the best principles of customer care
The benefits package includes performance related pay or competency based pay, a full training and development programme, free membership to our local leisure centre and local government pension scheme

Percy1983

I get free travel on public transport with my job.

MacMickster

Really2 wrote: »

It would seem to indicate it would be fairly easy to earn more than that though and that the package is better than just the minimum wage at the start also in terms of value.

There are plenty more minimum wage public sector jobs out there, with no apparent bonuses available.



From Bridgend County Council

Job Advertisement

Transportation & Engineering Department
School Crossing Patrol Officers (fixed site) Ref 01095
£6.08 per hour Term time only
(Subject to Job Evaluation)
Around 5,000 children are killed or seriously injured on Britain’s roads every year. Every 2 out of 3 of these accidents occur whilst a child is out walking or playing, which is why our School Crossing Patrols have such a vital role to play.
If you have a friendly, welcoming personality, are approachable and want to make a difference in your local community, you could be just what we’re looking for. We currently have a number of vacancies for the following:
As a School Crossing Patrol you will stop traffic to assist pedestrians across the road, look out for potential hazards or dangers near crossing areas, and help educate children on road safety issues.
We have vacancies in locations throughout the county borough, and working hours will fall either side of school start and finish times. It is important that you are available to work on all days when the schools are open.

Really2

MacMickster wrote: »

Senior Dining Room Assistant

School Crossing Patrol Officers (fixed site) Ref 01095

How things of changed from

Dinner Lady & Lollypop Lady. (TBH I thought these rolls used to be voluntry rolls)

There is no dispute there will be some, but I think the idea that the lowest paid are mainly in the private sector is untrue.
Oddly non so far have been civil service either.;)

Thrugelmir

MacMickster wrote: »

It is true that many pay scales in the public sector start at a few pence per hour above the National Minimum Wage, but I would still argue that earning £7 per week above the absolute minimum is still a minimum wage job.

That's still around 3 times what a worker earns working in a Honda car plant in China on the assembly line.

The context has to be what is a job worth in this global world we now live in.

Really2

MacMickster wrote: »

There are plenty more minimum wage public sector jobs out there, with no apparent bonuses available.



From Bridgend County Council

Job Advertisement

Transportation & Engineering Department
School Crossing Patrol Officers (fixed site) Ref 01095
£6.08 per hour Term time only
(Subject to Job Evaluation)
Around 5,000 children are killed or seriously injured on Britain’s roads every year. Every 2 out of 3 of these accidents occur whilst a child is out walking or playing, which is why our School Crossing Patrols have such a vital role to play.
If you have a friendly, welcoming personality, are approachable and want to make a difference in your local community, you could be just what we’re looking for. We currently have a number of vacancies for the following:
As a School Crossing Patrol you will stop traffic to assist pedestrians across the road, look out for potential hazards or dangers near crossing areas, and help educate children on road safety issues.
We have vacancies in locations throughout the county borough, and working hours will fall either side of school start and finish times. It is important that you are available to work on all days when the schools are open.

Looks like the evaluation was beneficial?
https://jobs.bridgend.gov.uk/tlive_webrecruitment/wrd/run//ETREC107GF.open?VACANCY_ID%3D69121937z5&WVID=2182250PYC

From the employment pack.

Salary £6.38 per hour

This post is subject to Job Evaluation, which is the process of assessing the relative value or size of jobs within an organisation. Jobs (not the postholder) are analysed against common criteria to measure the content and context of the jobs people do.

Pension Scheme

All staff are eligible to join the Local Government Pension Scheme, which is currently a final salary scheme. It is a contributory scheme.

Maternity/Adoption/Paternity Pay & Leave

We offer a generous scheme which provides payments in addition to statutory provisions.

Subsidised Leisure
All employees are eligible to purchase a Bridgecard at reduced rates which offers discounted access to the council’s leisure centres within the borough.

Occupational Health Services

There are a range of services available to promote staff welfare. These include an in-house counsellor, fast-track physiotherapy and effective return to work programmes.

Training and Development

We recognise the importance of learning to the success of the organisation and are committed to the investment in and development of our staff. We believe that our customers deserve a service from staff who are competent and trained to do their jobs.

Old_Slaphead

MacMickster wrote: »

There are plenty more minimum wage public sector jobs out there, with no apparent bonuses available.



From Bridgend County Council

Job Advertisement

Transportation & Engineering Department
School Crossing Patrol Officers (fixed site) Ref 01095
£6.08 per hour Term time only
(Subject to Job Evaluation)
Around 5,000 children are killed or seriously injured on Britain’s roads every year. Every 2 out of 3 of these accidents occur whilst a child is out walking or playing, which is why our School Crossing Patrols have such a vital role to play.
If you have a friendly, welcoming personality, are approachable and want to make a difference in your local community, you could be just what we’re looking for. We currently have a number of vacancies for the following:
As a School Crossing Patrol you will stop traffic to assist pedestrians across the road, look out for potential hazards or dangers near crossing areas, and help educate children on road safety issues.
We have vacancies in locations throughout the county borough, and working hours will fall either side of school start and finish times. It is important that you are available to work on all days when the schools are open.

How up to date is this advert?

My LA pay over £7ph for School Crossing Patrol Officers.

sharnad

Old_Slaphead wrote: »

So just because you say something, without any corroborative evidence, that makes it a fact does it ?

http://www.lowpay.gov.uk/ nmw report

cant link the pdf

Old_Slaphead

sharnad wrote: »

http://www.lowpay.gov.uk/ nmw report

cant link the pdf

Ok, I give up. What point are you trying to make with this post ?