Public Sector. Good or Bad?

sharnad

Andy_L wrote: »

You do realise that's a private sector job and doesn't actually state a requiremnt for a degree, although for £60k HR job I'd expect CIPD, MBA type people to be applying

Yes I do realise that someone asked me for some reason what you would need to get a diveristy managment job


that was just some info I found on one

sharnad

Intoodeep wrote: »

£6.08 x 35 x 52 =£11065.60

Anyone know how many employees in the Public Sector earn this amount on those hours ???

I await with baited breath the number of Public Sector Employees who are paid the minimum wage.

If you went and asked one of the union sites they could probably tell you, considering the number of public sector workers I would imagine at least a few thousand

sharnad

Old_Slaphead wrote: »

Le Chuck - I'm not sure what the point of your post is - could you explain?

I've never disputed that there is pay below £15000 - what I have said is that no public sector employee is paid the national minimum wage as shanad has stated. I challenge you or sharnad to post a link that shows otherwise

FWIW Notts CC employer pension contributions are between 16% and 22% with an average of 18%.

I already mentioned some that were

lynzpower

http://www.jobsgopublic.com/jobs/student-retention-officer-11-002/from/1ki524rnbh07fw/59/of/689/opening_at/desc

Have a look on jobsgopublic there are plenty to choose from!

Why dos everyone assume that just because you work in the public sector you take out a pension! I never did when I worked for local government as I just couldnt afford to pay it, I was not the only one as most of the colleagues I worked with were on temporary contracts.

mattcanary

wotsthat wrote: »

Oh right - a front line librarian.

I like books and reading but still think too much money is spent on libraries - if they are that great why do only old people use them?

Maybe because you live in an area where the majority of the population is elderly? Just a thought...

mattcanary

Andy_L wrote: »

on like-for-like only at the lower paid end, it does not prove it at the mid & high pay end. Although it could be argued that the mass contractorisation was driven by political dogma/desire to get the costs off the books rather than a value-for-money approach



I would refer you to my previous post

It also arguably gave the chief executives greater political power to pay themselves more - they could then argue that they had reduced the wages costs of the organisation so they must have done a good job!

mattcanary

Old_Slaphead wrote: »

Relevant degrees have value but many jobs don't actually require degrees especially non-relevant ones. Degrees are often overrated unless they are vocational (IMHO)

When I was a school leaver anyone who didn't get good 'A' level grades usually ended up somewhere like Keele University doing Social Sciences (whatever that was).

They nearly all ended up as teachers or Civil Servants.

Many vocational degrees aren't required either - a large element of some seems to be what your attitude should be if you are employed within the industry in question, they study how to manage an organisation within the sector and ethical standards, etc. You hardly need to formally study to learn that...

(As well as the system breeding conformists that offer nothing new)

mattcanary

Intoodeep wrote: »

£6.08 x 35 x 52 =£11065.60

Anyone know how many employees in the Public Sector earn this amount on those hours ???

I await with baited breath the number of Public Sector Employees who are paid the minimum wage.

And no-one in the private sector should earn this little either.

Such earnings in many cases only get topped up by benefits anyway which come out of the government's coffers.
So maybe cheap private sector wages come at a financial cost to the country as well, only more indirectly?

Old_Slaphead

sharnad wrote: »

I already mentioned some that were

So just because you say something, without any corroborative evidence, that makes it a fact does it ?

MacMickster

Old_Slaphead wrote: »

So just because you say something, without any corroborative evidence, that makes it a fact does it ?

So you need corroborative evidence?


Casual food & Beverage Assistants
Employer
Borough of Broxbourne
Reference
CA
Published
Wed 28/09/2011 16:35 PM
Closing Date
Wed 12/10/2011 23:59 PM
Organisation
Borough of Broxbourne
Coverage
· Hertfordshire, Eastern (inc. Herts and Essex)
Working Pattern
Part Time, Permanent position
Hours
Casual
Salary
£6.08 per hour
CRB Check
No
Location
EN8 9XQ


It is true that many pay scales in the public sector start at a few pence per hour above the National Minimum Wage, but I would still argue that earning £7 per week above the absolute minimum is still a minimum wage job.

Although pension schemes are available, and there would be an employer's contribution, many earning these rates can't afford to belong to the pension schemes so don't benefit from those contributions.