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the_lunatic_is_in_my_head

As for the game. If you bought it as new, how would you KNOW it was new? You couldn't.

The same applies to a lot of things you can buy so what are we going to do now have a philosophical debate on what the word new means?

If the OP purchased it new from the supermarket and never opened the case, it's still new isn't it? You may not know where the supermarket got it from but considering one distributor occasionally reseals damage stock and just sends it back out again the item being sealed doesn't mean it's new either, ironically the only way to know is to remove the cellophane and look at the disk...

Hollie84

chancesare wrote: »

As for the game. If you bought it as new, how would you KNOW it was new? You couldn't.

yeah maybe he didnt think it because there was no cellophane covering the item but what items come covered these days.alot of the time u have to take the sellers word as it being new if you buy something off ebay.i know its new as it was bought from a store

Hollie84

Also as someone said earlier u can buy the stuff to seal the dvds/games back up so anyone could pass used items off as new then if they wished and us as buyers would have to take there word for it

the_lunatic_is_in_my_head

Also as someone said earlier u can buy the stuff to seal the dvds/games back up so anyone could pass used items off as new then if they wished and us as buyers would have to take there word for it

As certain sellers on Amazon do with rare titles, same used to happen with videos as well.

chancesare_2

soolin wrote: »

Th ebuyer expected a shrink wrapped game as that is what the 'new ' condition on ebay tells them to expect. This crops up time and time again- the big game sellers have tried arguing with ebay about the condition explanations but nothing has changed.

It is worth noting that if you sell a game as 'new;' buyers are told the following:

Condition

New
An item that is still in its original shrink wrap from the manufacturer and the original manufacturer’s seal (if applicable) has not been removed. See the seller's listing for full details.

Keep an eye on your expanded seller dashboard, th ebuyer might hit your description stars - but it is worth an email to ebay adding your comments to all the others about ebay misdescriptions.

If you sell any more though you might avoid problems by stating in the auction terms itself that game although new is NOT shrink wrapped.

Hollie84 wrote: »

yeah maybe he didnt think it because there was no cellophane covering the item but what items come covered these days.alot of the time u have to take the sellers word as it being new if you buy something off ebay.i know its new as it was bought from a store

ludovico wrote: »

As for the game. If you bought it as new, how would you KNOW it was new? You couldn't.

The same applies to a lot of things you can buy so what are we going to do now have a philosophical debate on what the word new means?

If the OP purchased it new from the supermarket and never opened the case, it's still new isn't it? You may not know where the supermarket got it from but considering one distributor occasionally reseals damage stock and just sends it back out again the item being sealed doesn't mean it's new either, ironically the only way to know is to remove the cellophane and look at the disk...

Ebays version of new is clear.
An item that is still in its original shrink wrap from the manufacturer and the original manufacturer’s seal (if applicable) has not been removed. See the seller's listing for full details.

If you then stated new but Morrisons don't shrink wrap, then that would be fair enough.

But you didn't.

So if you bought something as 'shrink wrapped' and it wasn't. You would be worthy of a dispute/giving a negative. Would you not?

the_lunatic_is_in_my_head

Ebays version of new is clear.

eBay's version of new is based on a the US market which has been applied to the UK specifics without thought. Seeing as certain titles are not manufactured in shrinkwrap, how do you propose they be sold on eBay? Not to mention is says 'if applicable'.

Hollie84

There is no point in the same argument,i cant remember in all the games/dvds ive bought from stores or on the net over this last year have been sealed maybe 1 or 2 out of the 20 or so ive bought and again as i say i didnt know that ebay automatically put that into your listing until checking the listing back over earlier and someone mentioning it on here.i didnt think for one second someone would come back and say its not new as its not sealed im used to buying alot of stuff unsealed

chancesare_2

ludovico wrote: »

Ebays version of new is clear.

eBay's version of new is based on a the US market which has been applied to the UK specifics without thought. Seeing as certain titles are not manufactured in shrinkwrap, how do you propose they be sold on eBay? Not to mention is says 'if applicable'.

It matters not.

If I buy on any website which says shrink wrap, I expect shrink wrap....for the very reason you yourself explain....

the_lunatic_is_in_my_head

for the very reason you yourself explain....

What reason?

chancesare_2

Hollie84 wrote: »

There is no point in the same argument,i cant remember in all the games/dvds ive bought from stores or on the net over this last year have been sealed maybe 1 or 2 out of the 20 or so ive bought and again as i say i didnt know that ebay automatically put that into your listing until checking the listing back over earlier and someone mentioning it on here.i didnt think for one second someone would come back and say its not new as its not sealed im used to buying alot of stuff unsealed

eBay don't put it on. You select it, as you did for this listing.