help translating m.o.t. paper please

s_b

HiTo wrote: »

If it's tight its pass and advise, no fail for missing bush.

shows how pathetic the mot is these days
god help us if 4 2 2 comes in

mikey72

HiTo wrote: »

If it's tight its pass and advise, no fail for missing bush.

It's a fail according to the book

http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4s02000408.htm

"inadequately repaired"

http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4s02000409.htm

"deterioration of a rubber, synthetic bush or mounting resulting in excessive movement"

s_b

mikey72 wrote: »

It's a fail according to the book

http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4s02000408.htm

"inadequately repaired"

http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4s02000409.htm

"deterioration of a rubber, synthetic bush or mounting resulting in excessive movement"

the motman obviously isnt time served though because as an ex mechanic he would know the repair was unsatisfactory
this is the problem we are putting men in jobs they dont comprehend,can you imagine a modern motman from school jack knowing that a ha viva has lots of play in its bottom balljoint as standard

Lum

If it's tight then the second point you mention doesn't apply.

If it holds everything secure then the repair is adequate. Besides "inadequate repair" says to refer to Appendix C which then talks about corrosion, not about substituting potentially inappropriate parts.

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mikey72 wrote: »

Probably a less heated version to look at

http://forum.difflock.com/viewtopic.php?p=653954&sid=513d3a5f857cb90c903258d68efa96d2

s_b wrote: »

or here
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=1048442&nmt=

theres a lot of these failing innit

you can never have too many opinions on the subject

but how come on the two sites he asks on most people agree, but on here it just causes arguments?


EDIT hubby says top stalking:rotfl:

HiTo

mikey72 wrote: »

It's a fail according to the book

http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4s02000408.htm

"inadequately repaired" Its tight, bottom busk ok = pass

http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4s02000409.htm

"deterioration of a rubber, synthetic bush or mounting resulting in excessive movement"

No mention of missing = pass

[Deleted User]

s_b wrote: »

the motman obviously isnt time served though because as an ex mechanic he would know the repair was unsatisfactory
this is the problem we are putting men in jobs they dont comprehend,can you imagine a modern motman from school jack knowing that a ha viva has lots of play in its bottom balljoint as standard

can't comment personaly as i never saw him, and there's no saying how long he has been in the job, but dh says m.o.t. guy was about 60

s_b

Lum wrote: »

If it's tight then the second point you mention doesn't apply.

If it holds everything secure then the repair is adequate. Besides "inadequate repair" says to refer to Appendix C which then talks about corrosion, not about substituting potentially inappropriate parts.

lum please

mikey72

ilikethesimpsons wrote: »

you can never have too many opinions on the subject

but how come on the two sites he asks on most people agree, but on here it just causes arguments?

That's just this site.

It looks like we agree (mostly) across the sites it's not right, even though it's passed.

Personally I'd look at putting the bushes in where they should be, and using a decent sized nut and bolt to replace the stud that's rotted away.

edit - take Hito's comment for argueing,
deterioration to the point it's dropped off, and he'll still argue it's ok as it doesn't say missing specifically.

s_b

ilikethesimpsons wrote: »

can't comment personaly as i never saw him, and there's no saying how long he has been in the job, but dh says m.o.t. guy was about 60

trust me that should be a fail but in todays watered down world of nobody cares anymore, he probably gets away with it because he doesnt do enough testing to stick his head over the parapet
worst thing is you cannot get details of specific garages on freedom of information so he falls under the radar
i have no axe to grind with the guy but i reiterate he needs to go on a refresher course