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piglet74

biscuitmad wrote: »

afternoon all

Had weigh-in this morning and lost another 6lb woohoo.

12lb in two weeks!

well done to all the losers.

:A fantastic!!:A

gailey_2

shala_moo wrote: »

Nikki, 1lb a week when your 10 stone is pretty good going i think, 6lb is 4%(ish) loss of your body weight..

Got to be honest, I never lost a lot on EE either which is why i don't do it, it tends to make me have bigger portions and i tend to "tweak" the 1/3rd SF rule.

Thanks for the tips Med mum & maman.. i might start it off by putting loads of ice into it so it's more watery. I don't smoke or drink alcohol so i convince myself thats it ok, but it's still making me unhealthy and dehydrated so it needs to stop! 2/3 glasses done for the day..

Gailey, i would ask your consultant to review what you are having again as you're moving on from BF'ing, you need to make sure you are having enough calcium whilst it not hindering your losses..

I'm not sure i'd agree with her about the soup though, i've not heard of having to have 1/3rd SF with the soup if it's made from vegetables.. although i guess it couldn't hurt..

A few months ago would have agreed with you but when she explained it and has checked with her headoffice I kind of get where shes soming from

few examples.

you make a big 3litre pan of soup with stock, some free veg and some super free.

The stocks free
even if veg was all super free list.

unless you had 1litre of 3lires you made would not be your 1/3superfree.
imagine if you made 3lites and got 10-12bowls out of 3litres that would not truly give you the 1.superfree.
Especially if you feeding the whole family.

same with spag bol which do make for everyone

use lean mince in frylite-free
passata superfree
and as much superfree veg as can sneak in usually one onion, 1 chilli, 1 onion my family fussy bunch.
combine with pasta-free

but would need 3rd of that plate with salad or veg despite having lots of super free despite having lots of super free in the spag bol as you could use 500g standard size pack mince, maybe 100g chopped veg making it super free so feed family of 4 150g portions but you would need least 200g of spag bol which is a 1/3 of 600g.


If in doubt I add more veg and salad and have fruit for afters.

I been going wrong with my 2weetabix apparently as dont have fruit with it and count is as one of my hex thourght the 1/3superfree was meals only:o.

But the only cereal I do adore with fruit is special k red berries which is about 5syns for measly 28g portion-always considered special k as healthy.

I know im doing rubbish on 1/3superfree rule as when i have mixed up dishes like spag bol, chilli or curry I been kidding myself as its got superfree in it its my 1/3 but its combined with rice or pasta just free.

I think a lot of people doing ee fall into this trap im too free and easy:rotfl:.

so today failed my first sucess express meal.

diced beef 300g-free
packet of stirfry £320g-whole pack-superfree
noodles-150g free

with se needs to be 2/3 superfree so least 66% but to do this would have needed 2packs of mushroom stirfry which would have been split of

640g superfree/450g -free meat+noodles.

fine on ee though.

will try harder with dinner salad, eggs, ham and potatoes with cheese hex.

had weetabix for brekkie no fruit but thats fine on se plan.
used few syns for sugar on top.
had banana as midmorning snack

going to try do few seperate things get it visual on a plate

start measuring and pouring into jug at start of day

need to go shopping for

splendour
alpen lite bars
more fruit!
might start weighing cheese again as guess from looking.

the healthy extras so confused as was losing loads at first when baby was tiny but now hes on solids its lot less so think should decrease hex.

Would struggle red /green as like my hex too much .
need least 2each.
at moment im having 3-4 vut down from 5/6.

Mediterranean_Mum

Brilliant explanation Gailey - that makes total sense to me and I assumed that much of what I was having was considered SF as it was part of the actual meal - I totally get it.

One question though - if I have a large bowl of salad at lunchtime which consists of -

1/4 cabbage, 1 cucumber, 1 tomato, 1 red pepper, several spring onions, 2 beetroot, 1 tin tuna in water, 2 hard-boiled eggs, seasoning, 1 tblspn light mayo -

would this be considered enough SF foods on my plate?

gailey_2

Mediterranean_Mum wrote: »

Brilliant explanation Gailey - that makes total sense to me and I assumed that much of what I was having was considered SF as it was part of the actual meal - I totally get it.

One question though - if I have a large bowl of salad at lunchtime which consists of -

1/4 cabbage, 1 cucumber, 1 tomato, 1 red pepper, several spring onions, 2 beetroot, 1 tin tuna in water, 2 hard-boiled eggs, seasoning, 1 tblspn light mayo -

would this be considered enough SF foods on my plate?

hard to know without visualising it.

eggs/tuna free
mayo-synned.
suprefree veg mentioned above if covers 1/3 of your plate.

maybe get permant marker and draw a 1/3 of your plate?

if not doing it by eye compare ration of weight of superfreev free to check it truly is a 3rd.

To be on safe side

if making dishes like curry ,spag bol, chilli , shepards pie ect include the supefree within those dishes as and extra and have 1/3superfree on side also seems easiseit of work out weight of superfree v free and you must have l;east of 1/3of what you have cooked which would be trikier if feeding whole family.

When I think of few things people say about extra easy it concerns me

does not seem that much different to what I normally eat.

I can eat as much as I like

Hardly seems like diet family can eat the same , going outs no problem.

Not saying people on extra easy not losing weight

They maybe making healthier choices therefore less calories
upped their activity
reduced milk and bread
less naughty stuff like chocolate as resticted syns.

So yes they would lose but not really following the extra easy plan as intended hence why some people stuggle and weighloss slows down.

Its only by trying to do sucess express which is over 50% and getting back to basics measuring has made me realise this.

Think consultants need to explain extra easy better as its not as easy as it seems.

Typical dish try and adapt for sw is fish with sw chips but peas are not superfree they are free as is sweetcorn so have to add different veg which would seem weird.

curry with rice-what veg would you serve with this? maybe some sort of curried veg with no potato just superfree as chicken is free as is rice. maybe do a chicekn curry and veg curry sperate on plate with same spices.

spag bols-easier mines always salad.
shepards pie always veg

With red and green theres lot more restrictions, weighing and measuring whiich keeps in check.

food optimising is about balance and my balance is wrong will try sucess express to kickstart then maybe return to extra easy when at target as want these last 10lb gone and free slimming world as target member as made some nice freinds in my group.

Mediterranean_Mum

Yep got to agree with you on a lot of points.

I can't look at the place like that though for my salad as I chop everything up and mix it all together - it's not a salad with tuna and egg on top - everything gets mixed up together and put into a huge bowl. I will try to take a photograph of it when I make it tomorrow and you'll see - it's humungous!

evilsquid1603

we were originally told when it first came in to just eat it if it was free on any day. the whole 1/3 super free at every meal is a completely new thing for me and is why i cant get my head round extra easy. i know theres no way i'd make the 1/3 super free for every single meal and snack so i just stick to green days mostly. i know where i am with those and i get more HE.

gailey_2

Mediterranean_Mum wrote: »

Yep got to agree with you on a lot of points.

I can't look at the place like that though for my salad as I chop everything up and mix it all together - it's not a salad with tuna and egg on top - everything gets mixed up together and put into a huge bowl. I will try to take a photograph of it when I make it tomorrow and you'll see - it's humungous!

if mixing weigh your salad and eggs
the tin of tuna should have weight if only using half the tin half the weight and make sure 33%of total weight is super free then mix in as thats how i like my salad adding baby potatoes, 2soft boiled eggs to my salad with chopped ham and grated cheese on top.

my stir fry today was huge but it wasent 2/3superfree as only 320g pack compared to the 30g beef and 125noodles both free.

Everyone has to chose the plan that best suits their lifestyle but ee, red and sgreen should all be equally sucessful if plan followed properly.
Think with extra easy to easy to go wrong as few checks and balances.

Mediterranean_Mum

I understand your point Evilsquid. In fact I was thinking about my afternoon snack which is usually 2 slices of wholemeal bread, homemade humous and a tomato but I realise that there's no way I can say this is 1/3 SF so today I just had fruit and I'll end up not having my HEB as I don't want it at supper.

It'll be interesting to see if I lose any more weight this week because of watching exactly what I'm putting on the plate each meal and snack.

So my next question is - is it a problem if I don't eat both HEA and HEB in a day? I can't remember what else is on the B list that I like (and I don't have a book) and from the A list I really only have the cheese as I don't like milk and again I can't remember what else is on the list but seem to remember thinking there's nothing here I like!

gailey_2

Mediterranean_Mum wrote: »

I understand your point Evilsquid. In fact I was thinking about my afternoon snack which is usually 2 slices of wholemeal bread, homemade humous and a tomato but I realise that there's no way I can say this is 1/3 SF so today I just had fruit and I'll end up not having my HEB as I don't want it at supper.

It'll be interesting to see if I lose any more weight this week because of watching exactly what I'm putting on the plate each meal and snack.

So my next question is - is it a problem if I don't eat both HEA and HEB in a day? I can't remember what else is on the B list that I like (and I don't have a book) and from the A list I really only have the cheese as I don't like milk and again I can't remember what else is on the list but seem to remember thinking there's nothing here I like!

Not sure med mum.

can have flexi syns but not sure about extras gues over week would balance out can only see it matter if you increased hex more than your plan allowed.

my a is milk and cheese.

my b -usually bread , high fi car or alpen-my fave snack with coffee choc orfange my fave but 1bar=-1 healthy extra b but alpne light bars 2bars=1healthy extras,

ryvitta have released something called cracker bread and can have 6 as it equals 1healthy extra. normal ryvittsas count as healthy extra b too.

As does cereal 2weetabix is 1healthy extra.

so most days for brekkie have 2weetabix.

remember large 800g loaf 1slice=1healthy extra
2small 400g load 2slices=1 healthy extra.

so if have sandwich always have salad with if on ee.

evilsquid1603

Mediterranean_Mum wrote: »

I understand your point Evilsquid. In fact I was thinking about my afternoon snack which is usually 2 slices of wholemeal bread, homemade humous and a tomato but I realise that there's no way I can say this is 1/3 SF so today I just had fruit and I'll end up not having my HEB as I don't want it at supper.

It'll be interesting to see if I lose any more weight this week because of watching exactly what I'm putting on the plate each meal and snack.

So my next question is - is it a problem if I don't eat both HEA and HEB in a day? I can't remember what else is on the B list that I like (and I don't have a book) and from the A list I really only have the cheese as I don't like milk and again I can't remember what else is on the list but seem to remember thinking there's nothing here I like!

you don't have to have any if you don't want to. you get dairy and fibre from other food anyway so you won't end up deficient in either of them if you don't eat them.

the EE A list is just milk and certain cheese, the B list has things like WH bread, cereals, ryvitas, krisprolls and certain cereal bars.

i like green days because the HEB list has posh cheese, dried fruit and nuts and lean meat/fish on it as well as the EE HEB stuff.

i think EE is like success express but not quite as complicated. I've a suspicion the 1/3 super free came in because when we first did EE my group all read it as "brilliant, plate of SW chips and massive steak here i come!" which is completely different to the way it is now.