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Trying for a Baby Part 7

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  • Nicki
    Nicki Posts: 8,166 Forumite
    Very sorry to read your news kittenpie. Have you got some support in real life to help you through this terrible time, other than family who are grieving too?
    RebekahR wrote: »
    So on the worst case senario ... at 7days your hcg is 0 but you are still pregnant its just not implanted yet ... how do they pick up you are pregnant 4 days before this!at 3dpo :eek: Maybe i'm reading it wrong but i'm not quite a believer. As at 3po the eggy might still be in your tubes and not even reach the womb yet. No implantation = no hcg? So just how do they pick it up at 3dpo ...

    Most non pregnant women have a tiny amount of HCG in their blood. Anything up to 5 is apparently normal and regarded by labs as BFN if detected, which is why the most sensitive pregnancy tests on the market are 10mui.

    Colli your post made me laugh. I suggested an early night to OH last night who looked at me wearily and said: "Oh is it that time then" and when I told him that no it was definitely not a good time to conceive and I was just proposing some fun sex, then didn't come up to bed until long after I had gone to sleep :(. And then woke up this morning and thought he would initiate something, without noticing that our 10 year old daughter had crept into bed with us first thing and was snuggled up with me on my side of the bed :eek: So, as a result, apparently I am on a promise tonight :D after we all get back from trick or treating and get 3 over excited sugar hyped children in bed. (we only go to friend's houses for this, in case anyone hates this tradition, and we personally love having little kids come to our house and always have treats in for them and have done since long before we had kids of our own).
  • Kitten_Pie
    Kitten_Pie Posts: 1,961 Forumite
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    Thank you for the open arms.

    We do have support and went along to our first counselling session this morning.

    There are lots of websites out there too, although lots focus on the fact that we should use contraception as I will be more fertile at this time. Does anyone know whether this is true?
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  • colli
    colli Posts: 669 Forumite
    I'm so sorry Holly. Look after yourself and feel free to vent on here anytime you want to xx
  • Nicki
    Nicki Posts: 8,166 Forumite
    Kitten_Pie wrote: »
    Thank you for the open arms.

    We do have support and went along to our first counselling session this morning.

    There are lots of websites out there too, although lots focus on the fact that we should use contraception as I will be more fertile at this time. Does anyone know whether this is true?

    I think it might be. We had major fertility problems conceiving our first child, which was an assisted conception and were told we were incapable of conceiving naturally. We then fell pregnant with our second accidentally exactly 4 months after the birth. When I became pregnant, I was then told that you are extremely fertile just after you give birth and that a lot of women who have had IVF have the same experience we did. After I had my last child, the midwife discharging me told me the same thing, not knowing of our previous experiences. And just at the moment, I am recovering from a miscarriage, and all the miscarriage websites also state this.

    The way it has been explained to me, though this could be professionals oversimplifying for a layperson, is that your body has already geared up for a pregnancy and all the right hormones are already switched on, so if you have had problems in the past, you are starting from a warmed up position rather than a cold start.

    How do you feel emotionally and physically? Are you in a place where you want to start trying again immediately, or do you need some time and space to grieve your loss? If you do want to wait for a while, it might be worth seeing if you can find someone sensitive who can advise you as to which contraceptive method would be best in your circumstances, as I would imagine you would want something which is quickly and easily reversible with no long term side effects?
  • TTC40
    TTC40 Posts: 1,056 Forumite
    Hi Kitten

    It's hard to find any words - but hope that hugs from us in this 'virtual' world help.

    Take any support which is offered - and then choose which helps you. Everyone is different and grief is different for all.

    Hope you have plenty of love & support from family & friends.

    xx
  • colli
    colli Posts: 669 Forumite
    RebekahR wrote: »
    Anything to add? Oooh how about hot tubs! Red juicey medium steak! This room is turning into a mansion ... :rotfl:

    SMEP went tits up for us on Saturday. Sat nights bd was at 3am ... couldn't decide whether to call that a Sat bd or a sun bd so figure Sun would work. Plan was to do more yest morning but our visitor decided to get up early so hubby got up to keep him company and then I thought ok he will go after breakfast. Many hours later ... he didnt go til evening! Had had no eggwhite all day so figured I would have already oved during the day so didn't bother with more last night. A half temp rise today so i'm guessing I have already. Until I just got a pain on one side like thats like sharp ovulation pain ... that said its doing the same on the otherside. That's IBS I guess or i'm about to have twins lol. It's sharp and stabby throbby.

    OOO can I have a Yo Sushi style conveyer belt with food circling round all day (doesn't have to be exclusively Sushi) :D

    Sounds like you have timed things well even if it's SMEP to the book ;)
  • QQuaver
    QQuaver Posts: 8,444 Forumite
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    Nicki wrote: »
    I was just proposing some fun sex, then didn't come up to bed until long after I had gone to sleep :(.
    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
    I bet the same thing will happen if I initiate:o
    Kitten_Pie wrote: »
    lots focus on the fact that we should use contraception as I will be more fertile at this time. Does anyone know whether this is true?
    I think it's true. Something to do with your body having all the hormones ready and geared up.
  • Kitten_Pie
    Kitten_Pie Posts: 1,961 Forumite
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    Thanks, personally I would want to start trying as soon as I physically can as i am paranoid it will take just as long and i don't want to waste anytime. It won't take away the grief I know but all the way through this pregnancy I was already talking about the next so it won't feel like I am bipassing them. (if that makes sense)

    However there are two of us involved in this and I do need to take into account that my husband has a voice too and he is obviously wary.

    I am sorry for your MC Nicki and hope you are recovering too.
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    :ANathan Henry & Lincoln Marcus born 19th October 2011 :A
    :D Naomi Lily born 28th August 2012 :D Lachlan Georg born 4th October 2013 :D
    :D Rowena Hazel born 5th October 2015 :D
  • sexymouse
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    Hugs for you kittenpie - I'm glad you have lots of support. Welcome back to the thread, and I hope that you get your BFP soon if you are trying again now.
    Enjoy the little things, for one day you may look back and realize they were the big things.
    I married Moon 8/4/2011, baby boy born 26/9/2012, Angel Baby Poppy born 8/11/15, Rainbow baby boy born 11/2/2017
  • ikkle87
    ikkle87 Posts: 8,449 Forumite
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    Hugs for you kitten_pie so sorry to hear of your loss :( xx

    Emsbet hope work wasnt too bad, i remember my first day back at work after my mc, i had 6 months off though. My ex didnt cope very well with my mc and blamed me and it ruined me a bit. What kind of job do you do? Sorry to be nosey, im just trying to get to know people with me being new.

    The AF room sounds good but why do we only get to have 1 kitten each, I already have two fur babies named Chaos and Oreo, both of whom are currently asleep on the sofa next to me, although Oreo is cuddling my leg lol.

    We went to the doctors this morning and I am now due to get the implant removed on Wednesday at 10:30, have asked OH not to tell anyone I have had it removed because I don't want people to put extra pressure on us if that makes sense?
    You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have.

    xx Mama to a gorgeous Cranio Baby xx
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