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Jomo

donnajunkie wrote: »

this does not make sense at all. obviously to get to calais you have to make that trip to calais. the whole argument here is whether someone can get back quickly. now answer this if you lived in dover which place could you get back quicker from? the place that is several hundred miles away or the place that is 22 miles away?

Oh purlease!!!

Depends on where they are fgs!

Surely you can see that the trip to Calais is the bit that is important?

No infact maybe you can't! God help ya!

Jomo

donnajunkie wrote: »

yeah and lose money that you didnt need to lose.

Wouldn't a trip from Calais cancel out jsa for 2 weeks? Hmmmmm:think:

donnajunkie

Anubis wrote: »

Well I have been here a month, had to deal with some abuse and I have seen some questionable comments, but your comment in bold is the most ignorant and stupid statement I have ever heard. :eek:

Working people are not a burden to society or the Government in any way, shape, or form. Working people pay your JSA. How can you possibly justify that they are a bigger burden to the economy/ their employer or in general? Please explain, I am at a loss for words....

no you misunderstand. i am talking specifically about the period of the holiday. an employed person is getting full wages and earning no profit for the employer in return during that time. i am not saying employees shouldnt get paid holidays. someone suggested becaase their husband doesnt get paid holidays that no-one else should either. my whole position here is defending a persons right to have holidays employed or not and criticising rules that say otherwise.

Jomo

donnajunkie wrote: »

no you misunderstand. i am talking specifically about the period of the holiday. an employed person is getting full wages and earning no profit for the employer in return during that time. i am not saying employees shouldnt get paid holidays. someone suggested becaase their husband doesnt get paid holidays that no-one else should either. my whole position here is defending a persons right to have holidays employed or not and criticising rules that say otherwise.

And nobody is saying you can't go on holiday abroad, just sign off first!!

skintandscared_2

donnajunkie wrote: »

no you misunderstand. i am talking specifically about the period of the holiday. an employed person is getting full wages and earning no profit for the employer in return during that time. i am not saying employees shouldnt get paid holidays. someone suggested becaase their husband doesnt get paid holidays that no-one else should either. my whole position here is defending a persons right to have holidays employed or not and criticising rules that say otherwise.

NO I DID NOT!!!! I said that we SAVE for holidays to compensate for the loss of a week's earnings. Get your facts straight.

donnajunkie

Bogof_Babe wrote: »

Maybe they should re-write the rule then. Instead of saying that holidays within the UK are permitted, it could read "holidays within two hours travel time of the DWP office where you are registered". Then the onus is on you to get back within two hours if required to. If you couldn't make it for some reason, no JSA for that week.

Would that be okay?

i think they dont have that because it would seem unfair on people who dont have cars. i agree it would mean alot of the issues i have raised no longer an issue. however i do think even the unemployed should be allowed a break. it is only 2 weeks that they are allowed its not like its 6 weeks. i would actually limit the length of one trip to a maximum of 1 week.

donnajunkie

skintandscared wrote: »

Or spend money you didn't need to spend on changing flights back from Europe... Minimum cost would be £25 per person admin fee. Then the difference in fare EACH. I would bet a week's wages that the cost of coming home for an interview would be a lot more than just giving up one week's JSA. How does that make financial sense?

Look, I'm not being funny but why shouldn't you just go on holiday for a week and forget about jobhunting. Take a proper break. Why can't you just go away and forget about the phone ringing for just a week. All you have to do is lose one week's JSA. Is that REALLY such a hardship?

i just meant it is possible to come back. the liklihood of having to come back is virtually nil. the only way you would have to come back is if the jobcentre called you about a job and they never do that.
well if someone can afford to lose a weeks money and are willing to do that to avoid potential hassle then fair enough.

donnajunkie

Jomo wrote: »

Oh purlease!!!

Depends on where they are fgs!

Surely you can see that the trip to Calais is the bit that is important?

No infact maybe you can't! God help ya!

no the important aspects are how far they are away, how long it would take to get back and whether they are located abroad or in the uk. they are the points relevant to the argument. the quality of the destination is not relevant. i only gave calais as an example because it is abroad and very close to dover. i could have said dublin is that a quality enough destination for you? it would be quicker to get to liverpool from dublin than it would be to get back to liverpool from northern scotland or cornwall. you can go to scotland and cornwall if you live in liverpool but you cant go to dublin. now do you spot the silliness?

donnajunkie

Jomo wrote: »

Wouldn't a trip from Calais cancel out jsa for 2 weeks? Hmmmmm:think:

do you mean if you went away for 2 weeks?

donnajunkie

flanflanflan wrote: »

You seem to have a poor attitude to jobseeking. If they are at home, why would they not be looking for work?

because in reality people dont spend all day everyday doing jobsearch. when i say that people say no wonder you are out of work. then we hear a story of someone who spends 10 hours a day doing jobsearch and cant find nothing. i wonder why they are out of work then.