Reported to social services and completely untrue

lostinrates

wageslave wrote: »

This isn't an ideal world, I am aware of it

If you wouldn't see a fifteen year old with a baby of her own why would you leave her with a baby?

If you can't afford to pay a fu cking babysitter, stay in

Why? because I might be wrong. And then we have noone win the world with what could tyurn out to be valuable experience for the rest of us. Because we all make different choices. Because there are worse than immature mothers. Because fifteen year olds can make astounding mothers, and forty year olds abysmal ones. Because a fifteen year old mother will be watched and hopefully supported more than she would be a year later and still a green- teen.

I think there is a happy medium between not going out and leaving kids for a whole weekend with a teenager...that's probably an evening, with back up support from the phone and neighbours.

wageslave

moomoomama27 wrote: »

wageslave I pity your children, they must spend their life in a bubble with a mother/father who's every uttering is an F word, and you think you can get on your high horse about a responsible 15 yr old babysitting!

and yet I have never been reported to social services

Funny auld world isnt it

lostinrates

moomoomama27 wrote: »

wageslave I pity your children, they must spend their life in a bubble with a mother/father who's every uttering is an F word, and you think you can get on your high horse about a responsible 15 yr old babysitting!

fwiw, wageslave and I are old MSE chums and I don't pity her children. Her own child and the ones she takes care of have the love of a mother-liones, whose not afraid to challenge and they'll be safe, well provided for and have clear lines drawn for them. Maybe not the one's I'd draw all the time, but I'd leave a child, if I had one, with Wageslave...or her teenage daughter ..and be confident it would turn out better than I could do. Even if we do disagree on this issue. She's someone who asks hard questions, in a way that makes one query oneself. That's always a good thing.

moomoomama27

wageslave wrote: »

and yet I have never been reported to social services

Funny auld world isnt it

Nor have I!

moomoomama27

lostinrates wrote: »

fwiw, wageslave and I are old MSE chums and I don't pity her children. Her own child and the ones she takes care of have the love of a mother-liones, whose not afraid to challenge and they'll be safe, well provided for and have clear lines drawn for them. Maybe not the one's I'd draw all the time, but I'd leave a child, if I had one, with Wageslave...or her teenage daughter ..and be confident it would turn out better than I could do. Even if we do disagree on this issue. She's someone who asks hard questions, in a way that makes one query oneself. That's always a good thing.

So you don't think that mothers who allow their teenagers to babysit feel the same way about their children? You don;t think we are just as protective of them?

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

Good grief...to think of all those times I babysat for the woman next door when I was 15. Those poor, neglected children were in such danger from me. How I never managed to kill a 3 year old, an 8 year old, a 10 and a 12 year old with my mother a whole 2 minutes' away up one garden path and down another to the front door, nobody knows.

Oh, I know how. Because I was quite capable of handling them at 15. Could have had one of my own quite legally 52 weeks' later.

gizmo111

moomoomama27 wrote: »

Nor have I!

I have - referer got through to my line manager:rotfl:

it was my 8 yr old daughter who wanted to eat more crisps.:p

lostinrates

moomoomama27 wrote: »

So you don't think that mothers who allow their teenagers to babysit feel the same way about their children? You don;t think we are just as protective of them?

absolutely, I'm one of those who baby sat in their teens, and think its good for all concerned, as I have said on here.

I'm simply saying that despite a difference of opinion in this matter, I do not pity wageslave's children. Far from it.

pigpen

wageslave wrote: »

Three and six are babies. Jeesus. On what planet is a three year old not a baby?

Pigpen at fifteen you were a CHILD and were entitled to be treated as such

Just because our mothers got it wrong doesn't mean we should

Fifteen is too young for that responsibilty.

On planet earth a 3 year old is not a baby.. where are you?

A 3 year old is possibly too old to be a toddler even.. they are just a 'young child'.. and 6 is a not so small child.

I was never a child.. at 15 I often had my niece over night.. given that she is now 21 I don't think I killed her..

Mind your children don't suffocate in the cotton wool!

moomoomama27

pigpen wrote: »

On planet earth a 3 year old is not a baby.. where are you?

A 3 year old is possibly too old to be a toddler even.. they are just a 'young child'.. and 6 is a not so small child.

I was never a child.. at 15 I often had my niece over night.. given that she is now 21 I don't think I killed her..

Mind your children don't suffocate in the cotton wool!

I agree. I think everyone has become very hysterical on this issue over the past 10 or so tears! When I was in my early teens, it was the norm to babysit from age 13/14, and for long hours! We were given a list of contact details and that was about it! We were responsible, cared about the children we looked after, knew what to do in an emergency. The children were as safe as they would have been had it been their own parents sitting in the living room, ocassionally checking on them!