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  • Gillyx
    Gillyx Posts: 6,847 Forumite
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    edited 24 July 2011 at 3:17PM
    mizzbiz wrote: »
    I think that's really sad, sorry. Glad you're not my 'close' family member.

    People are so judgemental!!

    Poor Amy - brilliant talent, caught in the trap that affects so many creative people. It ruins some, it strengthens others. Known many like her and known them go both ways.

    You have no idea the hell that my family was put through, sympathy doesn't even cut it, infact the majority of my family were at peace when the person was gone, because they couldn't cope any more with the stealing, not knowing if they'd come home if they'd be in the house, if they'd even have any furnishings left that the person hadn't pawned for drugs/alcohol, and everytime the phone rang late at night whether it'd be the police or even worse the morgue.

    So judgemental I may be, but I've lived through it, and seen it destroy more than one life, the lives of others are affected too, innocent people, who don't deserve it.

    So do I feel sorry for Amy's family, yes I do, because they've been living that hell for years, but sympathy for a junkie that's brought nothing but misery to her family's door for years on end when all they've tried to do it help her?
    The frontier is never somewhere else. And no stockades can keep the midnight out.
  • polejunkie
    polejunkie Posts: 177 Forumite
    I feel sorry for her father mitch, the story broke as he was en route to USA so very insensitive on the presses part.

    Given that she had sod all regard for her own life I refuse to waste time on this public display of grief for a walking snorting embarassment.

    If she had died drink driving im sure the reaction would be different but because its just drugs thats ok?? She killed herself at the end of the day and only has herself to blame, there are 92 men, women and children in Norway that had their lives taken away from them yet amy winehouse gets the top spot on most national newspapers. What a world we live in.
  • justmel
    justmel Posts: 264 Forumite
    I do understand the misery that having an addict in the family can cause,my mother in law is an alcoholic and has been for as long as i can remember,i knew my husband and his family from childhood and her drinking has had a detrimental effect on him throughout his whole life.

    When we became a couple he took me to visit her,she was drunk so he poured her drink away and she held a loaded shotgun to his head that he had to wrestle away from her,she has stolen from us,broken into our home and i have had to comfort my children whilst listening to her beating my husband outside of the house until the police arrived.

    We really did try everything but she refused to admit there was a problem,we cut all ties with her for two years at one stage because we couldn't suffer her behaviour anymore and didn't want the children exposed to it.

    Eventually she did admit her problem,she did get some help but she is not fully recovered,she is no longer violent though and she also knows that she is only welcome to visit if she is sober.

    She has suffered years and years of mental illness that go back to before the drinking and i have always said that i will do everything i can to help her but she has to help herself too.

    I know that feeling of wondering if the next call will be the police to tell my husband she is dead,she is mostly sober now but when she slips back she does so very badly.

    Right now we have just come out of a bad phase with it all,her boyfriend died suddenly in January at their home whilst she was there (this was not drink or drug related,he did not have those issues) and whilst i cannot allow her to be around my children drunk i cannot turn my back on her at a time like this either.

    For me i am able to detach myself when i need to,i have my own health problems and i have to withdraw from it all at times but for my husband it is different,every day that she is sober is a day that he can relax and be happy,every day that she is drunk is a day of worry for him.

    Often now when she is drinking we just don't hear anything from her because she knows better than to contact us drunk,we hear through other people at times but have gotten used to the idea that when it's quiet she is probably drinking and all you can do is hope to hear from her sober instead of hearing that she has died from it.

    She has put our family through hell on many occasions but i still cannot bring myself to have no sympathy for her,i know she wishes she wasn't like this and i know she is happier when she is sober and can spend time with her grandchildren and i also know she is a lovely woman when she isn't drinking who would do anything to help anyone.
  • viktory
    viktory Posts: 7,635 Forumite
    darlyd wrote: »
    I am in tears here, only 27, what a terrible waste of great talent... :(

    I've never understood that.
  • meritaten
    meritaten Posts: 24,158 Forumite
    why do people say that alcoholism/drug addiction is a disease? That is a myth put about by people who wont take responsibility for their own actions. A disease is something you catch - therefore its 'not your fault'. Alcoholism and drug addiction are lifestyle choices. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY! those that do, can beat it - those that dont - Die, mess up thier lives and those of their families.
    Amy made her lifestyle choice despite repeated attempts to get her 'clean' by her caring family - she always went back to the drugs. It wasnt a disease! she got clean/cured and then she started on them again.
    I feel sorry for Amy and her family - especially her family. but, as Amy said 'They tried to make me go to Rehab, but I said No, No, No'. shame - she was a talented woman!
  • RichGold
    RichGold Posts: 1,244 Forumite
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    meritaten wrote: »
    why do people say that alcoholism/drug addiction is a disease?
    They are apparently the only diseases you can be shouted at for having.
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  • suki1964
    suki1964 Posts: 14,313 Forumite
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    meritaten wrote: »
    why do people say that alcoholism/drug addiction is a disease? That is a myth put about by people who wont take responsibility for their own actions. A disease is something you catch - therefore its 'not your fault'. Alcoholism and drug addiction are lifestyle choices. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY! those that do, can beat it - those that dont - Die, mess up thier lives and those of their families.
    Amy made her lifestyle choice despite repeated attempts to get her 'clean' by her caring family - she always went back to the drugs. It wasnt a disease! she got clean/cured and then she started on them again.
    I feel sorry for Amy and her family - especially her family. but, as Amy said 'They tried to make me go to Rehab, but I said No, No, No'. shame - she was a talented woman!

    There is no cure for alcoholism.
    We either drink or we dont
    The alcoholism never goes away
    If I dont drink Im still an alcoholic
    Yes I can be dry - but Im still an alcoholic

    You choose not to think of it as a disease - thats your choice. However what makes someone who knows that another drink will kill him/her will still pick up that drink?

    When someone is in the madness of being an active alcoholic, nothing nor anyone will be able to stop them, only the alcoholic in question. And no matter how intelligent or educated that person is, when they are in the madness of being an active alcoholic there is very little chance of them abstaining long enough to be able to get sober and stay dry
  • mich13x
    mich13x Posts: 290 Forumite
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    OP i think its perfectly normal to feel sadness and cry for someone you dont know, particularly celebrities because unlike the average joe their lives have played out in the public eye and even though you dont know them personally its likely you will have read/heard alot about them.

    Very sad, RIP Amy.
  • show some respect, yes she was a drug addict but she doesn't deserve to die she obviously had her problems. Her poor family must be heartbroken, that is there baby daughter that you are talking about and i don't car if that is your opinion cause it is terrible. Just think if it was your family. People have free will don't they? and some people go the wrong way but who are any of you to judge them.
  • RichGold
    RichGold Posts: 1,244 Forumite
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    No-one is saying she deserved to die.

    She made her own choices though, and they clearly resulted in her death.
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