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Nice people thread part 4 - sugar and spice and all things
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You need to borrow someone else's computer. I wouldn't run microsoft safety scanner, personally. Neither would I worry too much - changing your banking passwords is just a precaution.
Because I'm not familiar with the particular virus, I would go here http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/forum22.html and ask for their help.
I think what they will probably do is get you to run a program that checks for rootkits first, then a program called combo fix, then another program called malwarebytes, and an antivirus.Depending on how aggressive the program is, they may ask you to run a program called rkill.
So... you shouldn't worry, the problem is fixable for sure.
(Don't use a USB stick, use a CR-ROM not a CD-rw, since this is a exe infecter)
Thanks. I have registered on bleeping computer and posted a message. I've disconnected the laptop from the internet and will await further instructions. I own more than one computer, and have no reason to suppose any of the others is infected, so I am OK for now.
My banking passwords for my current account are of the sort where they only ever ask you for characters 3, 5 and 10, or whatever. Do I need to change those? I also have a savings account, but I can't remember what its password is because I don't use it often. I have an Excel file on the infected computer with hints for all my passwords, but I'm not sure if I should run Excel to check the hint to work out what the password is. (Although I'm afraid I have run Excel, and opened that file, since the infection started but before I realised what was going on. It's my master spreadsheet for everything financial, so I put my solar panel data into it daily.)Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
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Not feeling too bad, obviously a bit weak and shaky and I am having to take horse sized antibiotic tablets (still loads better than the IV antibiotics though).
They decided against the procedure because they thought to do it now would possibly make things worse, although it would give them the answers they needed, so by waiting, it would allow the inflammation and infection to clear.
The weird thing was despite it being nothing to do with maternity or gynae, I ended up in the maternity block! Quite nice though as all the meal times and hot drinks runs were done to the same schedule as for all the new mums, the bays were 4 bed maximum and the cubicle very large to accomodate mum plus baby.
I was so relieved when they said they had decided not to do the procedure as it meant there was a chance of being home for Christmas whereas if they had done the procedure, it would have been very unlikely. I did however, tell a little white lie and say my pain had settled down but felt I had to as my parents were struggling with the boys, maybe not the most sensible decision in the world but I would have felt awful if it had ended up with dad in hospital with another stroke or heart attack, especially as he has been having a series of mini strokes just recently.
Good news is that the pain HAS actually settled now!
Sue it sounds awful. Hope things improve A LOT and VERY SOON.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
Thanks. I have registered on bleeping computer and posted a message. I've disconnected the laptop from the internet and will await further instructions. I own more than one computer, and have no reason to suppose any of the others is infected, so I am OK for now.
My banking passwords for my current account are of the sort where they only ever ask you for characters 3, 5 and 10, or whatever. Do I need to change those? I also have a savings account, but I can't remember what its password is because I don't use it often. I have an Excel file on the infected computer with hints for all my passwords, but I'm not sure if I should run Excel to check the hint to work out what the password is. (Although I'm afraid I have run Excel, and opened that file, since the infection started but before I realised what was going on. It's my master spreadsheet for everything financial, so I put my solar panel data into it daily.)
It's hard for me to know how serious it is, since all I can go with is the microsoft report... I haven't come against that particular virus myself. With regard to the savings account, if you don't store the password in your browser cache / windows passwords it should be safe as long as you haven't used it since the last time you ran your antivirus and it was clean.
As I say, changing banking passwords is a precaution, it is highly unlikely that any used before the last time you ran your antivirus and it said it was clean would be compromised unless you stored it in windows passwords or the browser cache.
But I don't want to say for sure as I am not an expert:D That's why I recommended the bleeping computer site, because they are experts:D“The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens0 -
Thanks tomterm. I never let the computer store anything banking related - well, just the address of the login page in the history. No passwords, no userids, no "remember me" for anything involving a bank - I type them in each time. And I have Rapport installed. So that should be OK.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
"I have an Excel file on the infected computer with hints for all my passwords" - I have hints stored too. It depends a bit how obvious those would be to somebody else.
Are your other PCs networked to the same router? I'm not sure that you can be confident that they are not infected, I am afraid.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
Is it worth downloading http://www.malwarebytes.org/ (the free version) and running a quick scan on your non-infected PC's? You'll have to download it anyway, and it is great for detecting and getting rid of mostly anything that anti-viruses can't detect except rootkits.“The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens0 -
why are we all getting so many computer viruses?
shops were depressing this morning....sales everywhere, tk max even was quiet. we got there at about half nine, usually manic for traffic and parking just before christmas, but found a great parking spot.0 -
"I have an Excel file on the infected computer with hints for all my passwords" - I have hints stored too. It depends a bit how obvious those would be to somebody else.
Are your other PCs networked to the same router? I'm not sure that you can be confident that they are not infected, I am afraid.
The hints are entirely unintelligible to anyone other than me.
Is it worth downloading http://www.malwarebytes.org/ (the free version) and running a quick scan on your non-infected PC's? You'll have to download it anyway, and it is great for detecting and getting rid of mostly anything that anti-viruses can't detect except rootkits.
Will do. Thanks.
ETA Since Malwarebytes was already on the infected computer, I have just set it scanning. I haven't had a reply from bleeping computer yet, but I don't suppose running malwarebytes now can do any harm, even if they will eventually tell me to do something else first and then run it again. In the meantime, it makes me feel better to be doing something. I am also running malwarebytes on this computer (which is almost never used), and will do the desktop downstairs in a moment.
ETA: Malwarebytes quick scan says this machine is clean. Will tell it to do a full scan starting when I go out shopping.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
lostinrates wrote: »why are we all getting so many computer viruses?
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It's speculation, of course, but it seems to me entirely possible that someone has found an unidentified vulnerability in either wordpress or one of the major advertising networks. Certainly, I know of people who think they have been infected viewing a microsoft news page or youtube.
My recent infection was the first in two years... but suddenly almost everyone I know is getting computer viruses.
I have taken to using a sandbox, because I think we are at the start of an epidemic.:D“The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens0 -
Shortly after my last message, I rang NHS direct who directed me to attend the big hospital A&E, which I duly did.....and they duly admitted me!
You poor love! How do you feel now?
What did you do with your boys when you were in hospital?...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0
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