Nice people thread part 4 - sugar and spice and all things

SingleSue

vivatifosi wrote: »

Sue, would it be abandoning someone if you persuaded them to seek professional help? It would definitely be better for you and would most probably be better for them.

I have been trying to persuade her to go to her GP but it is complicated....the GP would probably want to medicate her and that is something this other organisation are saying she cannot have.

Personally, I believe she needs the help her GP would be able to give, even if that means medication but she is so scared of letting people down at this organisation, that she says she cannot go.

lostinrates

SingleSue wrote: »

I have been trying to persuade her to go to her GP but it is complicated....the GP would probably want to medicate her and that is something this other organisation are saying she cannot have.

Personally, I believe she needs the help her GP would be able to give, even if that means medication but she is so scared of letting people down at this organisation, that she says she cannot go.

Is it a religious organisation?

people like Christian scientists are opposed to medication but are not geenrally opposed to professional ''talking'' therapies. It would be a good idea to keep working on this even if for the non medical treatments. If things are touching your own demons then., to be brutally honest, you need to put yourself, and by extension your children, first.

misskool

michaels wrote: »

Hope it was encrypted as per your organisations data security policies and indeed that the data it contained was suitable for taking off site.

it was definitely encrypted. no one else understands what's in those spreadsheets except me. the key is in my head :rotfl:

LydiaJ

lostinrates wrote: »

Is it a religious organisation?

people like Christian scientists are opposed to medication but are not geenrally opposed to professional ''talking'' therapies. It would be a good idea to keep working on this even if for the non medical treatments. If things are touching your own demons then., to be brutally honest, you need to put yourself, and by extension your children, first.

Mainstream religious organisations don't generally have a problem with either medication or talking therapies, beyond suggesting that people having talking therapies make sure their therapist is willing to work in sympathy with their religious views. The usual approach is to tell the person to seek professional help and come to the religious organisation for prayer and/or extra talking as well.

The kind of organisation that would tell its people not to go to a GP for fear of being given medication is likely to say that the only acceptable talking therapy is within the organisation (although Christian Scientists may be different). Organisations that take that view range from the well meaning but misguided to the downright dangerous, IMO. Try to encourage your friend to think for herself about what is the right thing to do, or what God wants, or whatever, rather than accepting what she is told without examining it.

Sue, if you feel you need to support your friend in what sounds to be an impossible situation, at least get some support for yourself, so you can offload what's going on and not be dragged down by it. Or get some help yourself for your own demons, or something. As lir says, your priority has to be to remain sane and functional yourself, if not for yourself then for your boys.

lostinrates

today, for the first time in MONTHS, I took dog-dog out of the garden without a lead on.

Her default run now is three legged, which is fine, it avoids stressing that leg. She was so happy not to be on a lead (she dislikes lead walking). I held big dog though, to avoid dog-dog getting to badly knocked. Watching them play is terrifying, it sounds and looks frightful...teeth and growling and leaping like savages. Too early for that yet.


Its been a weird day....several different weathers, from sunny and warm through chilly and grey to decent rain.

JonnyBravo

Yep had good amount of rain last night. Thank goodness. It looks like Arizona out back at the moment

lostinrates

b-i-l's apartment building has been wrecked by the earthquake in NYC. I didn't even know there had been one.

PasturesNew

lostinrates wrote: »

b-i-l's apartment building has been wrecked by the earthquake in NYC. I didn't even know there had been one.

Yep. 5.8/5.9 the other day ... and now Hurricane Irene is headed for the city and people are being advised to get ready to evacuate from a lot of low lying areas in the city .... and NYC isn't used to hurricanes/bad weather like that.

Irene will be hitting NYC Sunday/Monday.

lostinrates

PasturesNew wrote: »

Yep. 5.8/5.9 the other day ... and now Hurricane Irene is headed for the city and people are being advised to get ready to evacuate from a lot of low lying areas in the city .... and NYC isn't used to hurricanes/bad weather like that.

Irene will be hitting NYC Sunday/Monday.

oh dear!

How are you, ok? and the old? When is the funeral?

PasturesNew

lostinrates wrote: »

oh dear!

How are you, ok? and the old? When is the funeral?

OK.
Detached.
Yesterday.