The CSA keeps badgering me to go back to work, but work doesnt pay, suggestions pleas

clearingout

OP - you are way too wrapped up in the rights and wrongs of the CSA to see any sense whatsoever. No regular poster here would deny that dealing with the CSA is, at best, problematic. But it's not about that, is it? It's about making sure your children have what they need and if you're being blocked from being there for them emotionally, you sure as hell can do something about the financial side. Instead, you use the fact you have a 'new' family to get out of paying for your 'old' family. At some point in the past, you have had money as you've been able to pay off your mortgage so you're capable of earning a decent living and supporting your family. Your ex may well be embittered - aren't we all?! - but she is probably also struggling. And if anything like me, would actually be able to look her children in the eye and say your dad gives a damn about you. All I see here is a man trying to make two wrongs make a right, giving the PWC every bit of ammunition she needs to turn the children against you.

How on earth do you think your children feel, knowing that you don't see them, aren't fighting for them, aren't supporting them financially but are more than happy to care for their half-sibling on a full-time basis? do you think they care about what has gone on between you and their mum?

JamesP1976

DuckEggGingham wrote: »

So while all this is going on, how much do you actually pay now towards your other children? Do you give any support at all? Or not pay a penny?

Even if you were only £50 a week better off for having a job would it not feel better, nicer to know you were providing for ALL your children? Who lets be honest have no say in any of this. Surely you would do anything for ALL your children? I think that's what a lot of people have a problem with, that it should not matter if you were 10,20,30,0r 400 quid a week better off, what would matter is that you were supporting your children.

You are trying to duck and dive the CSA at your kids expense in more ways then one.

Thereya go, have some corn.

JamesP1976

clearingout wrote: »

OP - you are way too wrapped up in the rights and wrongs of the CSA to see any sense whatsoever. No regular poster here would deny that dealing with the CSA is, at best, problematic. But it's not about that, is it? It's about making sure your children have what they need and if you're being blocked from being there for them emotionally, you sure as hell can do something about the financial side. Instead, you use the fact you have a 'new' family to get out of paying for your 'old' family. At some point in the past, you have had money as you've been able to pay off your mortgage so you're capable of earning a decent living and supporting your family. Your ex may well be embittered - aren't we all?! - but she is probably also struggling. And if anything like me, would actually be able to look her children in the eye and say your dad gives a damn about you. All I see here is a man trying to make two wrongs make a right, giving the PWC every bit of ammunition she needs to turn the children against you.

How on earth do you think your children feel, knowing that you don't see them, aren't fighting for them, aren't supporting them financially but are more than happy to care for their half-sibling on a full-time basis? do you think they care about what has gone on between you and their mum?

Amen clearingout

Trent1974

JamesP1976 wrote: »

Thereya go, have some corn.

Im still laughing my socks off reading that guff.

Trent1974

JamesP1976 wrote: »

With arrears, the maximum is 40%.

Fission wrote: »

Wrong.

30% is the max liability. Most liabilities are less than that.

But, if you owe arrears, up to 40% can be taken

I really wonder what you do with your lives.

Trent1974

Kimitatsu wrote: »

I would like to point out though that this forum is not filled with man hating rug munchers (although the phrase me giggle this morning) nor hens,

James, go find another forum, leave these muppets to their own devices.

Sidekick_2

JamesP1976 wrote: »

Other then getting flak, nothng as far as In know. It just makes financial sense to reverse our roles. I didnt think it would be a problem revealing that on a forum that focuses on saving money.

Yes it may make financial sense,but I don't think you calculated correctly.

No, because my reasons for objecting to the decision was on the basis the CSA falsified my circumstances to reach that decision, and that is an offence under s2 of the fraud act 2006. The CSA does not have a procedure to investigate fraud by its own decision makers. The only route is a criminal investigation, and that is only possible through the parliamentary ombudsman and then the serious fraud office.

This would have been a complaint which was finalised in your favour. I'm fully aware of the fraud act 2006 however a complaint is separate from an assessment, it is the assessment you need to get correct.

The CSA doesn't allow housing costs because I dont have any. Unless council tax counts.

Yes that's what I was referring to, council tax is classed as housing costs.

Pass, we need to work those figures, but my concern the CSA will find an excuse not to allow me to retain sufficient income to pay childcare and expect my ex to pay from her income instead. (now you menion it, does anyone know the official position on men being allowed to pay childcare?)

The csa would allow a child allowance in your exempt income of your maintenance assessment, decreasing your maintenance liability.

Im out well of time by the CSA own limits, but with fraud invistigations, there are no time limits.

The fraud investigation has not correct to your assessment, you need to complain about the maintenance calculation.

Done, done and done again. I have the decision makers home address from the transcript of her interview tape, is it worth writing to her at home?

Now that would be harassment.;)

Sidekick_2

JamesP1976 wrote: »

Thereya go, have some corn.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

They'll be spitting feathers now

JamesP1976

Sidekick wrote: »

This would have been a complaint which was finalised in your favour. I'm fully aware of the fraud act 2006 however a complaint is separate from an assessment, it is the assessment you need to get correct.

The assessment was correct according to the CSAs own opinion of my circumstances. However, I was able to show evidence to the contrary, but the CSA disregarded it knowing it would cause, or expose me to the risk of a financial loss. That commits an offence. When questioned why they disregarded the evidence, they denied ever receiving it so I played the telephone call on my laptop to the investigation which confirmed acknowledgemrnt of the said evidence. That revealed a further offence had been committed.

Sidekick wrote: »

Yes that's what I was referring to, council tax is classed as housing costs.

Thank you, didnt know that. I dont think I have ever been allowed council tax as a rebate against CSA. I'll go back through the paperwork and see if any more refunds are due. Its all disclosed on the MEFs. I assumed it didnt count.

Sidekick wrote: »

The fraud investigation has not correct to your assessment, you need to complain about the maintenance calculation.

I did, and but I got excuses I was out of time. So I was recommended to use the fraud route seeing I had the telephone calls downloaded to my laptop.

Sidekick wrote: »

Now that would be harassment.;)

So why does the CSA do it?

Thank you for taking the time to reply to my post, its much appreciated.:beer:

Marisco

James, if you want to stay at home to look after your child, there is nothing at all wrong with that. A lot of SAHM's do it. If you can live on your gf wages only, fair enough, it really is no one elses' business. However, your posts come across as if you are doing it purely to avoid paying CSA for your first family, and that I think is why you are getting the flack. The CSA got it wrong, judgement was made in your favour, now forget it and move on!!! You will see on here that the CSA get it wrong umpteen times, IMO the whole lot should be scrapped, and drawing board brought in!!