who can we complain too?

paddyrg

gregg1 wrote: »

And I also happend to think that all those of you who are claiming the OP should not be making a fuss would not be so quiet yourselves had this happened to you.

Damn right, I'd be here telling you I was pleased somebody cared enough, even if it meant minor inconvenience to me.

Look at it like this - if everyone stayed silent and complicit in this, that kid was being beaten, and lived to tell the tale, if all that happened and the kid grew up a bit disturbed for it and went off the rails, and if that kid/young adult started turning tricks/doing smack/robbing the neighbourhood, would it have been better than someone showing up at the door, realising they had the wrong family and moving on? Do you think I am exaggerating for effect? That is a very common story/pathway for domestic abuse children. Or should we all hush it up in case we offend somebody?

gregg1

mynameisdave wrote: »

No, its ridiculous to suggest taking legal action against a health worker for taking a measure to protect children.



It would be inconvenient, but not unexpected if I was in the vicinity of the house at the time it got burgled.



She could have found out better, yes. But to take legal action is ridiculous.

That is rubbish and I don't believe you.

Furthermore, I did not say I agreed with taking legal action over this - I don't

What I don't agree with as people being so quick to lay into someone who is completely innocent of wrong doing but has been visited by social services (with all the problems that can bring with it, even to the innocent).

This may come as somewhat of a surprise to some of you (although I find it hard to believe you are not aware of this) but Social Services don't always get it right you know or have you not seen any news reports in the last 20 years?

And all because a receptionist was too lazy to look into the matter properly - of course she could have found out the proper name and address if she had tried but it was easier for her to run the risk of branding everyone as a child abuser!

mynameisdave

gregg1 wrote: »

That is rubbish and I don't believe you.

Well tough titties. Dont lose any sleep over it because you are FACTUALLY wrong. You are asking my opinion, I have given you my true opinion. If I am hanging around outside a house while the police see someone robbing it I fully expect to be arrested and fully understand why they did.

If I am nowhere near the house then the scenario is not the same.

gregg1 wrote: »

Furthermore, I did not say I agreed with taking legal action over this - I don't

My only post was criticisng the suggestion to take legal action and you criticised me for it.

gregg1 wrote: »

This may come as somewhat of a surprise to some of you (although I find it hard to believe you are not aware of this) but Social Services don't always get it right you know or have you not seen any news reports in the last 20 years?

I've seen a few about dead kids because they didn't take action. Which onmes are you specifically referring to?

gregg1 wrote: »

And all because a receptionist was too lazy to look into the matter properly - of course she could have found out the proper name and address if she had tried but it was easier for her to run the risk of branding everyone as a child abuser!

She could have been able to check, she might have been too busy doing her job. We have no idea.

The best being catching a view of the mother as the child went in (not practical if she is working and dealing with other patients)

The worst is marching up to the mother in questions and demanding to know her name - hostility and confrontation not great for any party.

gregg1

paddyrg wrote: »

Damn right, I'd be here telling you I was pleased somebody cared enough, even if it meant minor inconvenience to me.

Look at it like this - if everyone stayed silent and complicit in this, that kid was being beaten, and lived to tell the tale, if all that happened and the kid grew up a bit disturbed for it and went off the rails, and if that kid/young adult started turning tricks/doing smack/robbing the neighbourhood, would it have been better than someone showing up at the door, realising they had the wrong family and moving on? Do you think I am exaggerating for effect? That is a very common story/pathway for domestic abuse children. Or should we all hush it up in case we offend somebody?

No- except we all know it does not always happen that way and innocent people are accused unfairly.

gregg1

mynameisdave wrote: »

Well tough titties. Dont lose any sleep over it because you are FACTUALLY wrong. You are asking my opinion, I have given you my true opinion. If I am hanging around outside a house while the police see someone robbing it I fully expect to be arrested and fully understand why they did.

If I am nowhere near the house then the scenario is not the same.




My only post was criticisng the suggestion to take legal action and you criticised me for it.



I've seen a few about dead kids because they didn't take action. Which onmes are you specifically referring to?



She could have been able to check, she might have been too busy doing her job. We have no idea.

The best being catching a view of the mother as the child went in (not practical if she is working and dealing with other patients)

The worst is marching up to the mother in questions and demanding to know her name - hostility and confrontation not great for any party.

What was stopping her from getting assistance and following it up that way. If she had been doing her job properly that is what she could have done. Of course no-one wants to see a child hurt but that is not to say it is OK to put other people innocent people under suspicion.

I stand by my statement that I do not believe for one moment everyone on here would be so tolerant if it had happened to them.

arcon5

gregg1 wrote: »

What was stopping her from getting assistance and following it up that way. If she had been doing her job properly that is what she could have done. Of course no-one wants to see a child hurt but that is not to say it is OK to put other people innocent people under suspicion.

I stand by my statement that I do not believe for one moment everyone on here would be so tolerant if it had happened to them.

Maybe people wouldn't be happy being in ops situation, but atleast they would understand the importance of them investigating any claim.

Maybe the receptionsit could have done something extra to ensure they only reported only the correct person, but she didn't, and subsequently reported everybody --- so would you rather her report he take this action an inconvenience a couple of innocent people or would you rather them do nothing?

There could be a million reasons she was unable to pull the persons details or spoke to the doctor to find out who she was afterwards.

gregg1

arcon5 wrote: »

Maybe people wouldn't be happy being in ops situation, but atleast they would understand the importance of them investigating any claim.

Maybe the receptionsit could have done something extra to ensure they only reported only the correct person, but she didn't, and subsequently reported everybody --- so would you rather her report he take this action an inconvenience a couple of innocent people or would you rather them do nothing?

There could be a million reasons she was unable to pull the persons details or spoke to the doctor to find out who she was afterwards.

hhmmm - really, a million? a tad over the top - just like the behaviour of the receptionist !

arcon5

gregg1 wrote: »

oh yeah - cos we all know social services never make mistakes!!!!

I would rather them try and fail than not try at all.;)

arcon5

gregg1 wrote: »

hhmmm - really, a million? a tad over the top - just like the behaviour of the receptionist !

What would be over the top is if I tried listing every one of the million

Dealing with this particular person there and then will just antagonise the woman. Okay she could have found out who this woman was by speaking to the doctor/nurse after -- if she had time to be looking out for her.

By by giving the details of everybody in the surgery in order to trace this woman was in no way out of order. If inconveniencing a few people is what it takes to protect a child then so be it.

Flyboy152

mynameisdave wrote: »

I doubt you can take legal action. Well actually Im sure you can take legal action but I hope you lose if you do

Why?


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