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  • hollydays wrote: »
    Can anyone produce a link to this. HOW has the law changed?

    A civilian had to KNOW an offence had been committed,and have reasonable grounds to suspect that the person was guilty of the offence in order to detain them.
    The law has never said (this is relevant to alarms) that The civilian can detain if they have reasonable suspicion that an offence has been committed.

    Has this changed?

    I think reasonable suspicion is what was posted earlier under SCONE. The alarms do not provide a case of suspicion, just that they have been triggered.

    For example, one might be standing next to a car when its alarm goes off. It does not mean that you have tried to steal the car, it may be that the owners left the window open and the volumetric sensors were set off. So to detain you whilst the police turned up would not be safe.
  • hollydays
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    I think reasonable suspicion is what was posted earlier under SCONE. The alarms do not provide a case of suspicion, just that they have been triggered.

    For example, one might be standing next to a car when its alarm goes off. It does not mean that you have tried to steal the car, it may be that the owners left the window open and the volumetric sensors were set off. So to detain you whilst the police turned up would not be safe.

    I dont think it was,thanks,but that is not what I was asking.
  • eyeinthesky
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    I think this may be what you were asking for, this has already been modified by SOCA.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/60/section/24A
  • hollydays
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    thanks,thats it.
  • CWCDiver
    CWCDiver Posts: 1,820 Forumite
    I think this may be what you were asking for, this has already been modified by SOCA.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/60/section/24A

    SOCAP not SOCA...
    It must be accepted as a principle that the rifle cannot replace the speed of the horse, the magnetism of the charge and the terror of cold steel.

    The British Cavalry Manual 1907.
  • eyeinthesky
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    CWCDiver wrote: »
    SOCAP not SOCA...

    Sorry, was working from my mostly dodgy memory. I had remembered it as serious organised crime act, forgot the police bit. :o
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