Public Sector Strikes

sharnad

Rotor wrote: »

Take it you are excluding higher paid teachers ( heads, deputy heads, heads of dept etc.) - yep that would lower it.

The people striking are lower paid workers as well, on around £15000

Rotor

sharnad wrote: »

The people striking are lower paid workers as well, on around £15000

No you miss the point Sharnad. Flyboy was suggesting the average wage is less than £32000 but average is average of everybody not average of those on grade 6 or below

fluffnutter

JognFine wrote: »

They should be happy on £15000.

How often do you hear about minimum wage workers striking?

They're already too bloody downtrodden.

fluffnutter

I don't get it. I can understand that people don't agree with striking. I can understand that people have difficulties with some aspects of the public sector workforce. I don't share those views but I appreciate that people have valid and heartfelt reasons for holding them.

But to think that employees don't deserve rights - that the "workforce" (not my use of quotes btw) is stupid and not 'deserving' is unbelievable, frankly. There are very, very few 'employers'; we are virtually all workers, millions and millions and millions of us. That we're not worthy of respect and decent conditions sounds positively 19th century to me. God, even the Victorians treated people better than some on this board are suggesting.

fluffnutter

JognFine wrote: »

Or perhaps they're happy with what they've got and aren't whining about it?

I should imagine that's the case. I doubt anyone on NMW wants to earn more than £7K a year. They'd be fools to!

sharnad

JognFine wrote: »

They should be happy on £15000.

How often do you hear about minimum wage workers striking?

Why should they be happy with that, you dont know the job they do or how hard they work.

I imagine there are some minimum wage workers as well who will be striking who are members of the PCS but you are right people do tend to go on about the higher paid workers more.

It is also harder for them to strike as they cant afford to lost the pay

sharnad

Rotor wrote: »

No you miss the point Sharnad. Flyboy was suggesting the average wage is less than £32000 but average is average of everybody not average of those on grade 6 or below

Yes it is annoying showing the average wage, it tends to make people think of all the people earning it and not the ones earning a lot less who are affected

fluffnutter

JognFine wrote: »

Who said employees don't deserve right?

Millions and millions are indeed workers, and the vast majority are perfectly happy. It is the whining minority that seem to think their employer should fork out to support their lavish lifestyle, no matter what the cost.

If the workers are so clever, again, why don't they rise above employment and employ others?

And again, 6 million people in the cabinet would make for an awfully cramped houses of parliament.

fluffnutter

JognFine wrote: »

Why would anyone not want to earn more than they do? It doesn't mean they aren't happy.

Well I'm guessing it means just that. If you're happy, why change things?

Just because you don't strike doesn't mean you're happy. I very much doubt the sorts of industries that pay NMW have much in the way of unions representing them. I'm not sure I've ever heard of the Fast Food Employees Union, nor the Office Cleaners Union.

I'm pretty sure that the reason NMW earners don't strike is not because they're happy with their pathetic seven grand a year - it's because they don't have the opportunity.

But then they're all 'stupid' aren't they and 'deserve what they get'.

sharnad

JognFine wrote: »

In my experience, fast food workers and cleaners are perfectly happy in what they do.

Of course, they'd like to earn £100,000 a year for what they do, but most don't endlessly whine about not doing so, or about the fact that the bosses have stopped allowing them free fries on a break,
Just because you don't strike doesn't mean you're u

So they either dont work full time or dont make national minimum wage