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Public Sector Strikes

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  • fluffnutter
    fluffnutter Posts: 23,179 Forumite
    I'm out of this one! Friday night and booze to be drank! It's been fun :D
    "Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell" - Edward Abbey.
  • sharnad
    sharnad Posts: 9,904 Forumite
    JognFine wrote: »
    They all make NMW.

    well then if they were on an average week of 38 hours they would make more than £10000, I think its around £11717
    Needing to lose weight start date 26 December 2011 current loss 60 pound Down. Lots more to go to get into my size 6 jeans
  • sharnad
    sharnad Posts: 9,904 Forumite
    JognFine wrote: »
    Good for them.



    yes it is so are you going to correct your post
    Needing to lose weight start date 26 December 2011 current loss 60 pound Down. Lots more to go to get into my size 6 jeans
  • WhiteHorse
    WhiteHorse Posts: 2,492 Forumite
    Let all the social workers go on a long strike - and watch the crime figures go into rapid decline.

    This happened in a London Borough many years ago!
    "Never underestimate the mindless force of a government bureaucracy
    seeking to expand its power, dominion and budget"
    Jay Stanley, American Civil Liberties Union.
  • sharnad
    sharnad Posts: 9,904 Forumite
    JognFine wrote: »
    All my posts are correct, why would I change them?



    you were saying fast food workers dont make £10,000 a year so either they do or they only work part time
    Needing to lose weight start date 26 December 2011 current loss 60 pound Down. Lots more to go to get into my size 6 jeans
  • vyle
    vyle Posts: 2,379 Forumite
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    I don't see why people assume public sector workers have great pay, great working conditions, huge bonuses, wonderful perks and an awesome pension.

    I know I'll never live long enough to see a pension, but when I was in the public sector (just before a huge recruitment freeze) I was the only person under 30 working there, and one of very few under 50. It was a regular occurrence to see colleagues breaking down in tears over how poor the conditions were. The pay was pure !!!!, just above minimum wage but without the comraderie or perks of mcdonalds. All they had was their pension to look forward to. They wanted to leave but were too old to retrain and get another job. I don't know if it was correct, but they were also afraid that if they left they wouldn't get their pension which they had paid into for, in some cases, 35 years or more.

    The public sector is a lot like vietnam. If you weren't there, you can't know the horrors of working there, at least in HMRC. I'm retraining to be a teacher, but I'm sure that I could use a degree for something else, too, if it gets too bleak there.
  • Gavin83
    Gavin83 Posts: 8,757 Forumite
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    What are the proposed strikes actually over? Is it just teachers or all public sector workers?
  • Rotor
    Rotor Posts: 1,049 Forumite
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    vyle wrote: »
    I don't see why people assume public sector workers have great pay, great working conditions, huge bonuses, wonderful perks and an awesome pension.

    I know I'll never live long enough to see a pension, but when I was in the public sector (just before a huge recruitment freeze) I was the only person under 30 working there, and one of very few under 50. It was a regular occurrence to see colleagues breaking down in tears over how poor the conditions were. The pay was pure !!!!, just above minimum wage but without the comraderie or perks of mcdonalds. All they had was their pension to look forward to. They wanted to leave but were too old to retrain and get another job. I don't know if it was correct, but they were also afraid that if they left they wouldn't get their pension which they had paid into for, in some cases, 35 years or more.

    The public sector is a lot like vietnam. If you weren't there, you can't know the horrors of working there, at least in HMRC. I'm retraining to be a teacher, but I'm sure that I could use a degree for something else, too, if it gets too bleak there.



    Not sure I understand. You claim in the public sector "you can't know the horrors of working there" yet you choose to retrain as a teacher!
    Are you aiming for private school teaching or is your claim mere hyperbole?
  • sharnad
    sharnad Posts: 9,904 Forumite
    Gavin83 wrote: »
    What are the proposed strikes actually over? Is it just teachers or all public sector workers?

    All Public sector workers it's not just affecting the teachers
    Needing to lose weight start date 26 December 2011 current loss 60 pound Down. Lots more to go to get into my size 6 jeans
  • 2gorgeousgirls
    2gorgeousgirls Posts: 423 Forumite
    edited 18 June 2011 at 12:30PM
    Not all public sector workers are on excellent pensions. Teachers, police, medical professions may be, senior civil servants definitely are but ordinary civil servants are not. Hubby has worked in civil service for 24 years. At present his predicted pension will be slightly over £100 pw, not a lot. I am also a civil servant but have not had a pension forecast so can't comment on mine.

    Taking the proposed changes into account, he will pay in more, receive his pension later and it may be less than the current prediction.

    We both work extremely hard, with hubby regularly working a couple of evenings at home on top of his office hours.

    Yes there are people who "swing the lead" and don't do much work but I'm sure we have all come across people like that in our working lives. The difference is that the private sector seems to be so much better at getting rid of the time wasters.

    I believe that the civil service, instead of concentrating on changing pensions etc, should be getting rid of the dead wood. Making the civil service more efficient would save a fortune in the long run.

    Pay is also rubbish - both of us earn less than the British average salary of £25498 pa. However, in the current climate, we are both so grateful to have a job and, currently, there are no signs of our posts being made redundant. So while, the pay is rubbish and the pension will be rubbish, we will not complain about our lot as we know we are in a much better position than many. We will just tighten our belts and try to save as much as possible so that, when we do retire, we will have some money set aside to supplement our pension.
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