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Public Sector Strikes

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  • Rotor
    Rotor Posts: 1,049 Forumite
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    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    If the unions achieve better conditions for your colleagues, will you decline any offer you may get to improve your working life and pension prospects?

    Don,t pretend that unions are representing the downtrodden. People arn't oppressed in t' mill anymore.
    THEY are the current bullyboys selfishly putting the interests of their members before that of society who will have to pay for the increases in (or protection of) conditions,and lost productivity , either through higher prices or higher taxes.
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    Rotor wrote: »
    Don,t pretend that unions are representing the downtrodden. People arn't oppressed in t' mill anymore.
    THEY are the current bullyboys selfishly putting the interests of their members before that of society who will have to pay for the increases in (or protection of) conditions,and lost productivity , either through higher prices or higher taxes.

    What about the post you quoted? Do you agree that those who do not support the unions should benefit from what they achieve?
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • Rotor
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    And another thing : teachers
    Striking because they should'nt have their conditions reduced!
    A salary of 30,000 a year, 35% contibution to their pension ( listen here to an actuary )http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b010r7c2#synopsis
    That comes to £40500 for a part time role ( 38 weeks a year) divide by 38 and times by 48(weeks per year most fulltimers work) and you arrive at TOTAL RENUMERATION = £51158
    YEA THEY'RE REALLY HARD DONE BY.


    Teachers should hang their heads in shame, cancel the strike and be bl00dy grateful of their FAT pension, FAT pay, FAT holidays and their immense JOB SECURITY - levels of all of these that most people can only dream of.
  • Rotor
    Rotor Posts: 1,049 Forumite
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    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    What about the post you quoted? Do you agree that those who do not support the unions should benefit from what they achieve?
    Yes because otherwise would be even higher reward to bullyboy tactics by introducing a differential
    I'd prefer the strikers to be sacked
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    Rotor wrote: »
    And another thing : teachers
    Striking because they should'nt have their conditions reduced!
    A salary of 30,000 a year, 35% contibution to their pension ( listen here to an actuary )http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b010r7c2#synopsis
    That comes to £40500 for a part time role ( 38 weeks a year) divide by 38 and times by 48(weeks per year most fulltimers work) and you arrive at TOTAL RENUMERATION = £51158
    YEA THEY'RE REALLY HARD DONE BY.


    Teachers should hang their heads in shame, cancel the strike and be bl00dy grateful of their FAT pension, FAT pay, FAT holidays and their immense JOB SECURITY - levels of all of these that most people can only dream of.

    I think you have your maths and holidays confused, perhaps if you had paid a bit more attention to your teachers, it wouldn't have happend. :D
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    Rotor wrote: »
    Yes because otherwise would be even higher reward to bullyboy tactics by introducing a differential
    I'd prefer the strikers to be sacked

    And how can you know that?
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • Rotor
    Rotor Posts: 1,049 Forumite
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    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    I think you have your maths and holidays confused, perhaps if you had paid a bit more attention to your teachers, it wouldn't have happend. :D

    Well do highlight my mistakes in red.
    You can't make me stand in the corner or suck a dummy for the amusement of the class :(- not any more.
    I won't go to your office















    I'm a broken man
  • Rotor
    Rotor Posts: 1,049 Forumite
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    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    And how can you know that?

    plainly no employer is going to tolerate a 2 tier pay structure with those who have cost them significantly in lost days /production at the top and the loyal employees on a reduced amount
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    Rotor wrote: »
    plainly no employer is going to tolerate a 2 tier pay structure with those who have cost them significantly in lost days /production at the top and the loyal employees on a reduced amount

    Well that would their problem, wouldn't it. Both the public and private sector has been operating prejudicial earnings scales for centuries.
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • gregg1
    gregg1 Posts: 3,148 Forumite
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    edited 16 June 2011 at 9:22PM
    Rotor wrote: »
    And another thing : teachers
    Striking because they should'nt have their conditions reduced!
    A salary of 30,000 a year, 35% contibution to their pension ( listen here to an actuary )http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b010r7c2#synopsis
    That comes to £40500 for a part time role ( 38 weeks a year) divide by 38 and times by 48(weeks per year most fulltimers work) and you arrive at TOTAL RENUMERATION = £51158
    YEA THEY'RE REALLY HARD DONE BY.


    Teachers should hang their heads in shame, cancel the strike and be bl00dy grateful of their FAT pension, FAT pay, FAT holidays and their immense JOB SECURITY - levels of all of these that most people can only dream of.

    is that right? Well teachers and TA's where I work have just been made redundant because the school budgets has been cut by 25% so no "immense" job security there then!!! Although I have to say, whoever taught you mathematics should be hanging their heads in shame!
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