Public Sector Strikes

pinkshoes

What annoys me most about the strikes is that even with the proposed changes to pensions, they'll STILL get a much better pension than I ever will in the private sector!

real1314

If the public sector are over priveleged in terms of pensions pay and conditions; why didn't the people who are complaining get a job in the public sector?

As for "Inefficiency" - a car manufacturer can replace an assembly line of workers with machines. A civil engineering company or builder can replace hundreds of labourers with machines.

Which machines shall we use to replace doctors, nurses and teachers?

Technological innovation in the public sector actually increases costs - a pc for every pupil as well as a teacher per class ; a new MRI scanner in every hospital and the staff to operate it.
Ageing population with access to more and more operations and a working son and daughter demanding they get the best care whilst complaining about the cost of the public sector.

Let's be honest Joe Public knows so little of how it all works, it's all just petty jealousy based on nothing more than vacuous politicians speeches.

How much is the pay and pension bill for Tesco? I fund that when I shop there.

td

I am a teacher but won't be striking as my union hasn't balloted,however I agree with them: I wouldn't mind paying more for my pension though expecting teachers to retire at 69 is ridiculous - would you really want teachers that old teaching your children. I have worked in some hard schools where I've been hit and being verbally abused was a weekly occurrence- could I do that at my dads age? I think not. Would it be different in a leafy village school? Perhaps - but I've never worked in one of those and most teachers don't.

Taiko

Local Government Officer, won't be striking. Not in any union, nor do I agree with the reasoning.

I do pay into the LGPS, and will be happy when I do retire as I've budgeted towards things changing. And whilst there is a lot of waste, there's a lot that gets done that is never reported. I'm onto my second department for troubleshooting now, and since I've gone into both I've contributed to savings, whilst making things more efficient. For my old department though, my work was undone by the last government, who thought they would shift my role to the north of England, alongside the same roles at various other authorities. It then meant that members of the public couldn't access the service at all in person or on a local level, and it actually ended up costing several million more than when dealt with by local authorities.

iwblue

Thats my next job, then I can just avoid paying tax and claim benefits as well!! Life of luxary why didn't I think of it earlier.....oh yeah cause thats one of the reasons we're in this mess in the first place.

Flyboy152

biggaz26 wrote: »

Personally I think, those that do, have cheek going on strike.

Most people in the private sector have had pension rights reduced and told that we have to work until later in life and contribute more whilst earning less and working longer hours.

Then because your super duper pensions are having to be funded your hiting the hard working average man/woman by striking.

The government dont give a !!!!! It wont effect them.

All that and you get school holidays of as well....the cheek of it;)

So why does that mean that the public sector employees should accept similar conditions? If you don't like the pension you've got, get a different one.

Flyboy152

relic wrote: »

I have no problem with people going on strike for genuine reasons, but I suggest these people have a look around and see what people in the private sector have had to go through for many, many years now.

I really do think they need to take a deep hard look at how this country has been hit. It's like the strikes the BA staff held, I would never fly BA again now due to this, it just highlighted the ridiculous pay and benefits they get.

See, this is something that I find hard to understand, just because others accept the conditions they work under, why should it mean that other should also accept them? If you think the conditions you work under are not acceptable and your employer refuses to discuss any improvements, withdraw your labour and tell your employer you won't return to work until they negotiate a mutually acceptable settlement.

Flyboy152

pinkshoes wrote: »

What annoys me most about the strikes is that even with the proposed changes to pensions, they'll STILL get a much better pension than I ever will in the private sector!

Your options are then, get a better pension or get a job in the public sector. You could could continue in your job, but ask your employer to pay you less and put the difference into a pension for you.

maninthestreet

real1314 wrote: »

How much is the pay and pension bill for Tesco? I fund that when I shop there.

Then don't shop there - you have that choice.

fluffnutter

This interminable whine about cushty public sector working is a bit tiresome (and I'm a private sector worker). We all have choices. Go and get a job in the public sector if that's what you want. No doubt they'll be a load of 'but it's not the easy! I do *this* and it's only private sector' or some such. Well, do something different then if it's that important to you. Retrain, keep applying, make more effort. Do everything you possibly can to achieve your goal. And if you're not prepared to do any of that, stop moaning about how easy it is for others. It's churlish and unpleasant and merely makes you look spoilt.