Another DLA refusal!!!

clemmatis

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

gannonea, if you daughter at one point was awarded DLA it would have been for a disability not a ' long term disease '.

- disabled is disabled
- ill is ill
- both require care .. .. but
- ill is not disabled
- DLA is for disability, not illness
- too many people who are ill claim to be disabled

DLA is about helping with care & mobility issues as a result of a disability, that's why I asked what your daughters care & mobility needs are ?
There are a lot of people here with a wealth of knowledge and experience who can help if you ask.

May I say that illness/disease can have profoundly disabling effects that may, if they are long term, qualify a claimant for DLA?

gannonea, your daughter would have been given it for care and/or mobility needs arising out of her condition, not "for" the condition itself. That's why the question was about care/mobility needs.

Anubis_2

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fortate wrote: »

Hello there

That is exactly how I feel, and I haven't even put a claim in! Have you seen the forms?? I am thinking of asking AGEUK to help with the claim for me, but what worries me is the same as you, the work and effort you have to put in to even apply for it only to find that you get rejected.

How people manage to fight these things I don't know. Is it a sign that they are more capable of looking after themselves better and able to cope with stress easier than others?
I know how I would feel if someone told me that there was nothing wrong with me, and then have to prove there is in a court.

I would be angry, and want to box their ears, but know beforehand that that would be completely out of the question. So, like you, it is much
easier from all angles not to put yourself through all of that in the first place.

Are you implying that everyone who fights for DLA is able to cope adequately with the stress and therefore are able to look after themselves better ( than others who are disabled) and therfore should not be entitled?

If you are not implying the above, then forgive me, but if you are I
assure you this is not the case!

Unfortunately a lot do have to fight to get an award nowadays, however, if they choose not to fight and do nothing, then nothing will change. It is not a case that people who do fight for their awards can look after themselves better and deal with stress better than the next person, it is a case of HAVING to fight for an award.

Many people NEED to buy many things to help them with their disabilities, and
they simply may not be in a position to do this without the award. This is the purpose of DLA and if they cannot buy the things they require then their quality of life maybe zero - this is why most people fight, and a lot of them win.

When you go to a tribunal, it is not the DM who read your claim initially sitting there, it is an independant tribunal, so it is worth fighting for as they may see your situation from a whole different perspective than the DM at the DWP.

luminated

Thank you anubis for saying what I would like to have said if I were having a better few days. Hopefully I am just coming out of a bad few days. I wonder how many more posters felt like responding but like me were not able.

Fortate is a new member & I hope the quality/contents of his future posts are more thoughtful -- unless of course he/she is a TROLL:eek::eek::eek:

iluvmarmite

fortate wrote: »

Hello there

That is exactly how I feel, and I haven't even put a claim in! Have you seen the forms?? I am thinking of asking AGEUK to help with the claim for me, but what worries me is the same as you, the work and effort you have to put in to even apply for it only to find that you get rejected.

How people manage to fight these things I don't know. Is it a sign that they are more capable of looking after themselves better and able to cope with stress easier than others?
I know how I would feel if someone told me that there was nothing wrong with me, and then have to prove there is in a court.

I would be angry, and want to box their ears, but know beforehand that that would be completely out of the question. So, like you, it is much easier from all angles not to put yourself through all of that in the first place.

If what you say is right and those who fight for their rights are maybe more capable to cope than those who cant fight, then it could be said that those who DONT fight and appeal are maybe not as ill as they say and cant be bothered to fight

starchild1972

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

gannonea, if you daughter at one point was awarded DLA it would have been for a disability not a ' long term disease '.

- disabled is disabled
- ill is ill
- both require care .. .. but
- ill is not disabled
- DLA is for disability, not illness
- too many people who are ill claim to be disabled

DLA is about helping with care & mobility issues as a result of a disability, that's why I asked what your daughters care & mobility needs are ?
There are a lot of people here with a wealth of knowledge and experience who can help if you ask.

DLA purposes, 'disabled' means that you have a long term, chronic illness which adversely affects your everyday activities. Not just a "disability", it depends on how they interpret the word disabled.

Richie-from-the-Boro

starchild1972 wrote: »

DLA purposes, 'disabled' means that you have a long term, chronic illness which adversely affects your everyday activities. Not just a "disability", it depends on how they interpret the word disabled.

Ok .. .. how do they interpret the word ?

victory

Doesn't DIAL help you? Age concern? CAB? There are organizations out there that help you get to the tribunal, are they not contacted?
I rang DIAL and they told me if I get turned down to ring them immediately and they will help me plus online there is a benefits website that says pay them £19.99 and they will make sure that you are succesfull at the tribunal?

If I get turned down I will appeal, not for the money, not for the stress, not for the extra forms to fill in just for the principal, I have paid all my taxes, worked all my life, never claimed anything ever and now I have had to give up my job, sit at home more often than not, bought my own mobility aids and mobility scooter, not asking for hand outs, just like the OP said money so that my quality of life is not zero.

victory

Principle in the sense that all my life I have been an upstanding citizen, never lied, never claimed, this now has happened to me where the RA is taking over my life, rather than me being in control of it and being able to go out to work and funcition normally rather than have to rely on people to get me through the day.

I have no need or desire to cope with all that comes with it but needs must, yes I need the money now I don't work, no I don't need the stress, the worry, the waiting, the decision making from someone else that will affect my life and my monies, no one needs that, wants it, looks forward to it , I would not wish it on my worst enemy, the same as having RA to be house-bound, the same as any illness, disability, I would wish if I had a magic wandthat everyone was well, healthy, rich, that will never be the case, it is not my case, not a lot of people's, it is how it is but to not fight, to not go up against them , to not get what would make life easier, well it has to be.

I have no attitude about it , as others I would rather pay you the money to give me my life back, the one I constantly miss but will not get back, the one I used to have with a job and an outdoor life and now have an indoor life and pain, so much pain and no wage.

I am not mentally, physical able but I have to be, I have so many black days and black thoughts it is a wonder I am still here but I would hope and expect some of the organizations out there to help me when I need it.

beanielou

Will grant going to tribunial is stressful but it is not physically difficult unless you are totoally housebound.
Its just like going for any other appointment.

beanielou

fornate~Yopu do not go to court if you appeal.
You go an independant tribunial which is heard locally.
You would usually go with someone that you have arranged to represent you & who will speak up on your behalf.
Hope this is of help to you.