Blitz on Disabled Parking Cheats by Supermarkets

STOCKWIRE

jetta_wales wrote: »

That's not how it works, there are many reasons for people with varyingdissabilities to need to not be left alone stood by the door of a shop like a lemon waiting for their carer to return.

In a hospital that applies to a lot of visitors. Now I know all the "lemons" in a hospital foyer are non badge holders !.

bifold

STOCKWIRE wrote: »

As an able bodied driver should you not have dropped your wife off and found parking in a normal space, leaving the limited disabled spaces free for drivers who are not in a position to do this due to "disabilities".

At last somebody with common sense:beer:

stefos

bifold wrote: »

At last somebody with common sense:beer:

So let's see... The able-bodied driver stops outside the supermarket entrance, goes round the car and take out the wheelchair and then helps the blue badge qualified passenger into the chair and then push them somewhere discreetly out of the way, returning to the car (hopefully it hasn't been pinched meantime) and then driving off to find a proper parking place.
After shopping the blue badge qualified wheelchair user then waits patiently outside while the car driver no doubt takes the shopping trolley back to the car and loads it and then find somewhere to put the empty trolley before driving back the entrance collecting the wheelchair occupant and reversing the arrival procedure. All this of course without inconveniencing any other shoppers.(and just think they'll be doing all this again when they get back home!)

This 'commonsense approach' would also apply to children with disabilities, epileptics, the blind and anybody else who isn't able to drive themselves. meanwhile the only people left to use the disabled bays would be those unfortunates who qualified for a blue badge, say for instance the obese or selective walking stick wielders. Of course that would mean changing the disabled bay logo from an illustration of somebody actually sitting in a wheelchair to perhaps a 'Ghostbusters' type character giving a two finger salute - with a crossed walking stick.

Yep,far more sensible.

n.b. I just thought, the obese could do with a longer walk and the walking stick brigade just throw their stick in the trolley and use that for support anyway.

No, let's just ban 'em all!

StephenM_2

stefos wrote: »

So let's see... The able-bodied driver stops outside the supermarket entrance, goes round the car and take out the wheelchair and then helps the blue badge qualified passenger into the chair and then push them somewhere discreetly out of the way, returning to the car (hopefully it hasn't been pinched meantime)

Not to mention the fact that whilst they are pushing the the passenger out of the way, they'll probably get a ticket for not being parked in a proper bay.

bifold

stefos wrote: »

So let's see... The able-bodied driver stops outside the supermarket entrance, goes round the car and take out the wheelchair and then helps the blue badge qualified passenger into the chair and then push them somewhere discreetly out of the way, returning to the car (hopefully it hasn't been pinched meantime) and then driving off to find a proper parking place.
After shopping the blue badge qualified wheelchair user then waits patiently outside while the car driver no doubt takes the shopping trolley back to the car and loads it and then find somewhere to put the empty trolley before driving back the entrance collecting the wheelchair occupant and reversing the arrival procedure. All this of course without inconveniencing any other shoppers.(and just think they'll be doing all this again when they get back home!)

This 'commonsense approach' would also apply to children with disabilities, epileptics, the blind and anybody else who isn't able to drive themselves. meanwhile the only people left to use the disabled bays would be those unfortunates who qualified for a blue badge, say for instance the obese or selective walking stick wielders. Of course that would mean changing the disabled bay logo from an illustration of somebody actually sitting in a wheelchair to perhaps a 'Ghostbusters' type character giving a two finger salute - with a crossed walking stick.

Yep,far more sensible.

n.b. I just thought, the obese could do with a longer walk and the walking stick brigade just throw their stick in the trolley and use that for support anyway.

No, let's just ban 'em all!

Shopping trolley? shoppers? supermarket? what sort of hospital do you visit?
There is never enougth BB parking at hospitals and if with a little common sense more people can use them durring the day then thats great.

jetta_wales

bifold wrote: »

Shopping trolley? shoppers? supermarket? what sort of hospital do you visit?
There is never enougth BB parking at hospitals and if with a little common sense more people can use them durring the day then thats great.

Stand in one spot at the entrance of that busy hospital or the supermarket with a blindfold on while loads of people brush past you or push past you when you can't see any of them or know when the next person will pass or how close they will be to you. Stand there like that for 30 minutes while your carer queues in the car park or just drives round in circles waiting for a space (our hospital's a nightmare), and see how lost and vulnerable you feel in that situation. Then think how an 80 year old would feel in that same situation, with full macular degeneration.

Unless you plan on making little safe dissabled people waiting rooms for us to sit in while we wait for our lifts then I think the rest of us fully eligible BB holders will continue to use our badges whenever we feel the need to thanks

STOCKWIRE

jetta_wales wrote: »

Stand in one spot at the entrance of that busy hospital or the supermarket with a blindfold on while loads of people brush past you or push past you when you can't see any of them or know when the next person will pass or how close they will be to you. Stand there like that for 30 minutes while your carer queues in the car park or just drives round in circles waiting for a space (our hospital's a nightmare), and see how lost and vulnerable you feel in that situation. Then think how an 80 year old would feel in that same situation, with full macular degeneration.

Unless you plan on making little safe dissabled people waiting rooms for us to sit in while we wait for our lifts then I think the rest of us fully eligible BB holders will continue to use our badges whenever we feel the need to thanks

Maybe not ideal but what stops a blind person walking across a carpark when accompanied by a carer. But hey you carry on. I just find it very sad that we only think of ourselves and sod everyone else. We all have our crosses to bear, but remember there is always someone with a heavier one !.

Hastobe_Katt

Our local authority has stopped free parking for blue badge holders - which I completely agree with. Blue badges are for accessible parking not free parking. IMHO it's the free parking that encourages blue badge fraud / theft. Financial needs should be addressed by other benefits. Additional financial needs due to the impact of your disability by DLA. I also think the badge should have the holders photo on the front where it is visible when the badge is in use / displayed.

I disagree with linking the blue badge to a HRM DLA award so that only those on DLA are eligible. I don't need the income from DLA but why should I be penalised and denied a blue badge because I am being responsible and acknowledging that (imho) it would be wrong for me to claim it. I had an independent medical assessment for my blue badge. (Plus, as someone has already pointed out, it can take a very long time for a DLA decsion to be made - 8 months plus.)

It is actually ok for a BB holder to park in a mother and child space if there are no disabled bays available. I asked for clarification on this and was advised by the manager of our local supermarket. Conversely, however, mothers and children cannot park in disabled bays.

If you are a disabled passenger in the car - but you do not intend to leave the vehicle then the driver cannot park in a disabled bay.

Don't judge BB holders by their apparent 'mobility'. Blue badges are also awarded to those with mental health issues. My sister (a nurse) has had abuse on a number of occasions when escorting patients who appear very mobile but have serious mental health problems.

Finally, I don't know who designs the car park layouts but I have seen disabled bays near the entrance but miles from the trolley park; in a location where you have to traverse a kerb to get to and from the store; and bays that are no wider than a normal bay! I have also seen mother and baby parking positioned closer to the store than disabled bays. Mother and baby parking only needs to be in a location where there is no need to cross the road to access the store.

bifold

jetta_wales wrote: »

Stand in one spot at the entrance of that busy hospital or the supermarket with a blindfold on while loads of people brush past you or push past you when you can't see any of them or know when the next person will pass or how close they will be to you. Stand there like that for 30 minutes while your carer queues in the car park or just drives round in circles waiting for a space (our hospital's a nightmare), and see how lost and vulnerable you feel in that situation. Then think how an 80 year old would feel in that same situation, with full macular degeneration.

Unless you plan on making little safe dissabled people waiting rooms for us to sit in while we wait for our lifts then I think the rest of us fully eligible BB holders will continue to use our badges whenever we feel the need to thanks

Have you thought of using hospital transport for the 80 year old,door to door service with trained staff.:D

sheeps68

Surely what is needed in all cases is common sense and courtesy towards other.
Use the bays if eligible and needed. If not eligible dont use them.
Dont use them if you dont need them but surely the real culprits are those who do NOT have a badge, dont qualify for a badge or need a badge. For example those who pop in for cigs, paper etc or simply dont think or care for others. Those are the people who need to be clamped down on.