Defiant child and pansy teacher.

polejunkie

Some people just should not have children

shegirl

gunsandbanjos wrote: »

Previous threads started by the OP



From March 2008, so next september would be september 2009? Wow, you finished your nursing degree quickly!



From October 2008. And you managed a PGCE at the same time too:money:

I believe air freshener may be required...

Gleeful

So the OP is a complete fantastist?

zaksmum

My daughter's a deputy head in a junior school. Only if there were very serious concerns regarding a child's welfare, safety and protection would the involvement of Social Services ever be requested.

make_me_wise

I would advise asking for a meeting with the teacher, the head and the school SENCO. You all need to be working together as a unit, agreeing on an IEP for your daughter. Deciding on strategies you will all use regarding her behaviour etc.

As I read your post I felt awful anguish for you and your child. There seems to be alot of disrespect, unease and mistrust between all the adults most responsible for your daughters care. That is not healthy and the likelihood of being able to move forwards positively right now is almost lost.

I was slightly confused when you said the school receptionist phoned ss when they saw you dragging your daughter to school. This seems a very odd response to seeing a parent making sure there daughter attends school. I have to ask how exactly were you 'dragging' her? I am asking this out of genuine concern for you not to paint you as a bad mum or stir trouble. I just cant see why they would respond in that way if the child were just being made in a firm but non aggressive way to go into school.

abacus73

KiKi wrote: »

I sympathise that you're cross with the teacher, and that SS have been called needlessly, and know your children are being monitored. It must be a pain, probably a bit embarrassing, inconvenient and probably makes you feel bad as well as resentful towards the teacher. But please bear in mind that the teacher - terrible as she may be in whatever way - saw behaviour that concerned her, and had to report it. If schools did not do this, *real* cases of abuse would go unabated. She did her job, even though it's caused you problems.

I dont think this teacher is terrible. She sees things about your daughter that greatly concern her and as part of her job she has highlighted these to the 'designated teacher' at the school. This is the one who is the child protection officer, usually the Head, Deputy Head or SENCO. They are highly trained and wouldn't involve ss unless they felt there was a real need to.

I felt really uneasy reading your original post OP. You came across very aggressive and resentful in your tone and not totally focused on what is really important, your childs welfare.

That must be coming across loud and clear to the school also for them to be taking the steps they are. Start working with them and not against them is my advice. If I get flamed for this so be it. Im more concerned for this child than whether I offend the OP by being honest.

I would also like to know, as another poster asked, why ss were called when you were seen 'dragging your child to school'. What exactly were you doing to her that caused that reaction from the school?

KiKi

abacus73 wrote: »

KiKi wrote: »

I sympathise that you're cross with the teacher, and that SS have been called needlessly, and know your children are being monitored. It must be a pain, probably a bit embarrassing, inconvenient and probably makes you feel bad as well as resentful towards the teacher. But please bear in mind that the teacher - terrible as she may be in whatever way - saw behaviour that concerned her, and had to report it. If schools did not do this, *real* cases of abuse would go unabated. She did her job, even though it's caused you problems.

I dont think this teacher is terrible. She sees things about your daughter that greatly concern her and as part of her job she has highlighted these to the 'designated teacher' at the school. This is the one who is the child protection officer, usually the Head, Deputy Head or SENCO. They are highly trained and wouldn't involve ss unless they felt there was a real need to.

It was actually me that wrote that, not the OP.

I don't know the teacher. I'm simply acknowledging that she may be horrid to the kids, and she may frighten the OP's daughter, and she may mock the OP's daughter from time to time; she may be a terrible teacher full stop. BUT if you read on, you can see that I was acknowledging that possibility in order to point out that EVEN IF she's a terrible person, she was STILL right to report the behaviour that concerned her.

(Ie, no matter how bad or awful someone is, they are still right to report concern of abuse, even it's unfounded.)

There was context to my post in the next sentence (but you didn't highlight that bit). I did *not* say the teacher was wrong to do what she did. I said quite the opposite.

KiKi

relic

The internet does some weird and wonderful things to people.

I personally don't see the point in lying about your qualifications and job history, because it's fairly easy to see when you're lying.

For the child's sake I hope the OP is on top of this, and this was kind of a "i'm bored and need some attention" thread, rather than a serious insight on their lives.

mountainofdebt

Well all I can say is I know someone who actually did have a visit from ss when concerns were raised by the school ....they were totally innocent of any wrong doing.

Yes they were angry at the fact that ss had been called in but as I said to them, teachers are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

squirrelchops

zaksmum wrote: »

My daughter's a deputy head in a junior school. Only if there were very serious concerns regarding a child's welfare, safety and protection would the involvement of Social Services ever be requested.

Partly true - many schools also contact social services for advice or if they are not sure if a child is reaching the threshold for social services intervention. If it isn't reaching the levels of a child in need of protection (ie significant harm) or a child in need level (to reach a 'normal' level of development) then the it will be suggested that the school could make the child subject to a CAF (Common Assessment Framework).

In short a CAF is a lower level to social services intervention and can work well for families with some needs.