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anamenottaken

GothicStirling wrote: »

Sorry, but people are paid to do there jobs and not to assess their manager's performance. It is my line manager's job to assess my performance, and not those that I line manage.

There are plenty of organisations which do pay their people to assess their line manager's performance. It's included in 360 degree appraisal.

Obviously that wouldn't be an organisation you would want to work in.

Getting feedback could help you improve your performance if your people are not worried about your reaction to being told the truth.

happy35

i have investigated a similar offence in the past, I would be honest that you have said it the background to you saying it etc etc.

the more info you provide to how you feel and the circumstances leading to this incident the better

Your actions are at the worst gross misconduct but could be downgraded to serious misconduct meaning you get a written warning on your file. If you have someone reasonable as the Decision Maker and a good HR manager they will look at both sides of the complaint and also what the witnesses say and not just what you said but what they perceive led to this outburst

Good luck

Strike

GothicStirling wrote: »

Sorry, but people are paid to do there jobs and not to assess their manager's performance. It is my line manager's job to assess my performance, and not those that I line manage.

They do not need to know what I'm thinking and feeling. If I say I'm going into the office to do paperwork, that should be enough for them. It does not mean I'm skivving. In my experience those who would make accusations of skivving are generally those who think they are better than they actually are anyway.

Since when was this thread about you?

Also your management style sounds appalling!

thorsoak

OP - do you honestly not see how offensive swearing at someone is?

You are most definitely in the wrong - no amount of wriggling about how unfair your manager is to you etc etc etc will not get you anywhere in a disciplinary - apologise profusely, give your word that you will keep your foul mouth to yourself in work in future and you might - if you are lucky - get off with a written warning.

But please learn some social skills - would you like to hear that language coming from your toddler (if and when you have one)? Because unless you learn to control your mouth that is what will happen.

harddy

RuthnJasper wrote: »

I don't think he did - it was Diable who hinted at saying the OP said "flipping" instead of "cufking" and Gordikins made the valid point that how could the OP know for certain that anyone had witnessed/overheard - there may have been some confusion between the two posts...

Incidentally, a chap I know once called his (female) supervisor a "F***ing C**t" in front of a number of his colleagues. He genuinely couldn't understand why he had been demoted and, subsequently, dismissed.

That said - OP, we all say and do daft things in the heat of the moment sometimes and I do know how hard it can be if your supervisor is a nutjob. Two of my colleagues walked out last week and - believe me - if I could afford to, I'd be gone as well - because of someone with a genuine nasty streak who is allowed a free reign because she flirts shamelessly with the senior manager. But I wouldn't give her the satisfaction of telling her what I think of her, as there's nothing she'd love more.

Good luck to you Harddy - hope things work out OK for you in the end, one way or 'tother.

R xx

Thank you mate, I really appreciate your support, unlike some on here who are just biased themselves without even knowing the facts, how sad is that!

harddy

anamenottaken wrote: »

A bad management decision to act in that way. Sorry but the law doesn't allow for instant dismissals like that. The OP's manager at least acted in accordance with the law.

I do agree, GothicStirling is even worse, she probably could get away with that style of management and style in concentration camps, sad human! forgot all about human rights.

harddy

happy35 wrote: »

i have investigated a similar offence in the past, I would be honest that you have said it the background to you saying it etc etc.

the more info you provide to how you feel and the circumstances leading to this incident the better

Your actions are at the worst gross misconduct but could be downgraded to serious misconduct meaning you get a written warning on your file. If you have someone reasonable as the Decision Maker and a good HR manager they will look at both sides of the complaint and also what the witnesses say and not just what you said but what they perceive led to this outburst

Good luck

Thank you for your support, from what I saw and what my colleagues say, our HR Manager is a biased individual always backing managers, and the so called independent manager is in most cases our operations Director who is in turn biased, I see myself in no win situation. But I do hope that they appoint a different Manager to investigate.

harddy

Strike wrote: »

Since when was this thread about you?

Also your management style sounds appalling!

Thanks Strike, well said. I just find GothicString not only one of the worst managers, but also a bad human, dectator like who forgot that those days are gone.

Sambucus_Nigra

harddy wrote: »

Thank you for your support, from what I saw and what my colleagues say, our HR Manager is a biased individual always backing managers, and the so called independent manager is in most cases our operations Director who is in turn biased, I see myself in no win situation. But I do hope that they appoint a different Manager to investigate.

Of course the HR manager will back managers - that's what they are there to do - to keep the company out of court.

The director is also biased, they aren't going to go against management - are they? That would in turn show up their own recruitment and management as failing....

If you swear at management, then what else do you expect them to do? Buy you cake and take you out for tea?

Sambucus_Nigra

harddy wrote: »

Thanks Strike, well said. I just find GothicString not only one of the worst managers, but also a bad human, dectator like who forgot that those days are gone.

Oh, and how long have you known Gothic?