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  • ovoreo
    ovoreo Posts: 149 Forumite
    You will be invited to a hearing. You will need to answer to the allegations which I assume will be 'swearing at your manager'. Think hard about what you should say, how you will approach it, how you will explain the situation and your relationship with your manager and importantly how you will cope with returning to work and putting the situation right. Hopefully the hearing manager will be independant and guided by a sensible HR representative who will see this is a simple case of lost temper caused by a relationship issue. Good luck.
  • harddy
    harddy Posts: 19 Forumite
    Also, there is evidence of favouritism in our workshop, I don't know if I could use that as a defence, it has always been denied by the manager! is this something I should mention?
  • gordikin
    gordikin Posts: 4,422 Forumite
    harddy wrote: »
    Also, there is evidence of favouritism in our workshop, I don't know if I could use that as a defence, it has always been denied by the manager! is this something I should mention?

    Forget all the extra stuff you've brought up....can it be proved you swore at her Y/N?
  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    harddy wrote: »
    Also, there is evidence of favouritism in our workshop, I don't know if I could use that as a defence, it has always been denied by the manager! is this something I should mention?
    Your defence is that you said something on the spur of the moment, without thinking, as I understand it. Favouritism shows itself on a much longer timescale, so you would undermine yourself.
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  • gordikin
    gordikin Posts: 4,422 Forumite
    harddy wrote: »
    The incident was not witnessed as far as I can tell, but I have heard that she came out of her office after, and she asked for witnesses, now I can't get intouch with anyone, was told not to contact my colleagues, the way she is "a Bully" she may have found some who could be witnesses. I am a bit stuck!
    I have no rep, am not a member of union or anything like that!


    How can you not know if there was anyone in earshot?
  • harddy
    harddy Posts: 19 Forumite
    I don't think so, I didn't see anyone witnessing the incident, but trust me that woman will get some to act as witnesses, I heard she walked out of the office asking people if they witnessed.
  • harddy
    harddy Posts: 19 Forumite
    The office door was open, I am not sure others heard it!
  • diable
    diable Posts: 5,258 Forumite
    was it flipping you said and she misheard you as she has got it in for you as she has other "favourites" in the office, have a dig around on FB to see if anything has been osted up by her or your colleagues, long shot but some people can be really stupid..............
  • CFC
    CFC Posts: 3,119 Forumite
    Don't go round the route of lying about it as suggested by Gordikins and Diable. That will turn what could potentially be a written or a final written warning to dismissal. No manager is likely to accept that your supervisor is hard of hearing or has just made this up.

    I think you are not really aware of how offensive what you said was and also how aggressive it sounds.

    Your best route is to say 'I fully accept that I was in the wrong and apologise unreservedly. I have found difficulties in communicating with my line manager for quite a while and understand now that I should have asked for help and assistance to improve our working relationship and the way we communicate. As it is, this was an uncharacteristic outburst of temper and I dealt with the situation poorly.' or similar.
  • brian_723
    brian_723 Posts: 337 Forumite
    CFC wrote: »
    Don't go round the route of lying about it as suggested by Gordikins and Diable. That will turn what could potentially be a written or a final written warning to dismissal. No manager is likely to accept that your supervisor is hard of hearing or has just made this up.

    I think you are not really aware of how offensive what you said was and also how aggressive it sounds.

    Your best route is to say 'I fully accept that I was in the wrong and apologise unreservedly. I have found difficulties in communicating with my line manager for quite a while and understand now that I should have asked for help and assistance to improve our working relationship and the way we communicate. As it is, this was an uncharacteristic outburst of temper and I dealt with the situation poorly.' or similar.



    Spot on ,this is exactly the angle the op should be taking .
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