Suspended from work

DVardysShadow

harddy wrote: »

The incident was not witnessed as far as I can tell, but I have heard that she came out of her office after, and she asked for witnesses, now I can't get intouch with anyone, was told not to contact my colleagues, the way she is "a Bully" she may have found some who could be witnesses. I am a bit stuck!
I have no rep, am not a member of union or anything like that!

Discussed recently on this forum and I don't think anyone thought that it was actually enforceable to prevent you contacting work colleagues. My own view is that your human rights override the employer's edict. But don't be silly about it and contact people via work, Stick to people you have outside contact details for.

Freddie_Snowbits

Time to join the union ooooops too late.

I am afraifd if anyone said that to me at work, I would be offended and yes, it is gross misconduct. Just walking into an office to sort something out is not how it is done, if you have a ghrievenance or complaint, you should always follow the procedure and enforce rule no:1 from Freddie.

When in a position to fire off the words or email. Take a good intake of breath, a cup of tea and come back the following day. That way you will know your colleaguie also has a life etc.

I am minded by the girls on the shop floor once who were denied a ciggie break once. I told them to wait while I sorted it out. Three of them decided their rights were better than mine and walked into the gaffers office. They left minutes later with the cards. The other girls missed one break!

FBaby

brian_723 wrote: »

Spot on ,this is exactly the angle the op should be taking .

I agree, if you want to keep your job, you need to be apologetic and show awareness of inappropriateness. You can say that you were particular stressed that day, brought on by difficulties in communicating with your supervisor, but that you know you went too far and shouldn't have said what you did. The key to keeping your job is for them to be reassured that it is unlikely to happen again, and remorse is what they will be looking for (whether you have any or not!!)

GothicStirling

You're lucky it wasn't me that you swore at, you would have been sacked on the spot.

You might disagree with the managerial style, but until you've been in a managerial position you haven't got a clue. I've had staff running to my line manager saying 'she disappears off for hours into the office' etc. What they don't see is that I have to run a large site single handedly, I have to look after 4 units, order stock, take in deliveries, wages, banking, Health and Safety etc Luckily my line manager just turns around and says 'she doesn't have to answer to anyone but me.'

It really isn't any of your business how she does her job. It was idiotic to swear at them.

dmg24

CFC wrote: »

Don't go round the route of lying about it as suggested by Gordikins and Diable. That will turn what could potentially be a written or a final written warning to dismissal. No manager is likely to accept that your supervisor is hard of hearing or has just made this up.

Where did gordikin suggest lying?

RuthnJasper

dmg24 wrote: »

Where did gordikin suggest lying?

I don't think he did - it was Diable who hinted at saying the OP said "flipping" instead of "cufking" and Gordikins made the valid point that how could the OP know for certain that anyone had witnessed/overheard - there may have been some confusion between the two posts...

Incidentally, a chap I know once called his (female) supervisor a "F***ing C**t" in front of a number of his colleagues. He genuinely couldn't understand why he had been demoted and, subsequently, dismissed.

That said - OP, we all say and do daft things in the heat of the moment sometimes and I do know how hard it can be if your supervisor is a nutjob. Two of my colleagues walked out last week and - believe me - if I could afford to, I'd be gone as well - because of someone with a genuine nasty streak who is allowed a free reign because she flirts shamelessly with the senior manager. But I wouldn't give her the satisfaction of telling her what I think of her, as there's nothing she'd love more.

Good luck to you Harddy - hope things work out OK for you in the end, one way or 'tother.

R xx

DVardysShadow

GothicStirling wrote: »

You're lucky it wasn't me that you swore at, you would have been sacked on the spot.

You might disagree with the managerial style, but until you've been in a managerial position you haven't got a clue. I've had staff running to my line manager saying 'she disappears off for hours into the office' etc. What they don't see is that I have to run a large site single handedly, I have to look after 4 units, order stock, take in deliveries, wages, banking, Health and Safety etc Luckily my line manager just turns around and says 'she doesn't have to answer to anyone but me.'

It really isn't any of your business how she does her job. It was idiotic to swear at them.

As Manager, you are the one who is expected to second guess what others are thinking and feeling. It does not put you in the position of expecting others to know what you are thinking and feeling.

GothicStirling

DVardysShadow wrote: »

As Manager, you are the one who is expected to second guess what others are thinking and feeling. It does not put you in the position of expecting others to know what you are thinking and feeling.

Sorry, but people are paid to do there jobs and not to assess their manager's performance. It is my line manager's job to assess my performance, and not those that I line manage.

They do not need to know what I'm thinking and feeling. If I say I'm going into the office to do paperwork, that should be enough for them. It does not mean I'm skivving. In my experience those who would make accusations of skivving are generally those who think they are better than they actually are anyway.

DVardysShadow

GothicStirling wrote: »

Sorry, but people are paid to do there jobs and not to assess their manager's performance. It is my line manager's job to assess my performance, and not those that I line manage.

They do not need to know what I'm thinking and feeling. If I say I'm going into the office to do paperwork, that should be enough for them. It does not mean I'm skivving. In my experience those who would make accusations of skivving are generally those who think they are better than they actually are anyway.

You might be too hung over to realise it, but that is more or less exact complement of what I am saying. If they do not need to know what you are thinking and feeling, then they can hardly be held to account for not knowing what you are thinking and feeling.

When you say:

GothicStirling wrote: »

... You might disagree with the managerial style, but until you've been in a managerial position you haven't got a clue.

you as manager have no basis to complain about how your employees perceive you, because you are not expecting them to know how you are thinking and feeling.

anamenottaken

GothicStirling wrote: »

You're lucky it wasn't me that you swore at, you would have been sacked on the spot.

A bad management decision to act in that way. Sorry but the law doesn't allow for instant dismissals like that. The OP's manager at least acted in accordance with the law.