Vendor wants their stuff back!

clockworks_2

Forget what's legally right to do. You want to sell someone else's stuff just to profit from it. It's a horrible greedy thing to do.

satchmeister

clockworks wrote: »

Forget what's legally right to do. You want to sell someone else's stuff just to profit from it. It's a horrible greedy thing to do.

I think you need to read the post about the stuff under the bed ... and all the other stuff they left which of course they will still leave or have left for the OP to dispose of - ie time and effort.

Ulfar

clockworks wrote: »

Forget what's legally right to do. You want to sell someone else's stuff just to profit from it. It's a horrible greedy thing to do.

Legally and morally right aren't always different. These people left stuff in a property which they no longer own or occupy.

When I leave a property whether it has been renting or selling, I have left the property in a clean and empty condition, as I would hope everyone would this I consider moral.

Leaving your stuff in a property for two months, thereby restricting someone else's use of the property which they are paying for I consider immoral.

I wouldn't go down the selling route as it is too much effort, but would you consider it immoral if the OP had thrown the stuff away ?

Plus as satchmeister has pointed out the condition they left the property in was disgusting and showed no consideration for the people following them, as does the leaving stuff behind in the loft. I wouldn't want these people in the property, you have no idea who they are but you do have some indication of their standards of behaviour by how the property was left.

harrup

Moomin21 wrote: »

Hi all,

The person we bought our off a couple of months ago has put a note through the door asking for the stuff back that he left in our loft (guitars/skis etc). The estate agent said it was legally ours as we ‘inherited’ it all when we bought the house, so we were looking forward to flogging it all on ebay!

He contacted the estate agent a while ago about this, and they gave me his number which i lost, so it seems he is desperate. As it was a rental property, it might not even be his to be honest, I’m just worried he may turn nasty if he doesn’t get it off us (although no idea what he is like yet!!)

I'm unsure I understand this post correctly.

The previous owner evidently rented out the house prior to selling it to you. His/her tenant left the property in an abyssmal state, ex-owner ( aka their Landlord) failed to check or clean the property before handing it over to you......but now he remembers that he had a guitar & skis stored in the loft and wants them back.

Is that correct?

If so....I get why you'd be miffed. I also get why you'd be saying "Fine, get the stuff BUT under the understanding that you empty the rest of the loft whilst you are at it. If that isn't agreeable, forget it".

Contact the EA - preferably in writing/email - and tell them the previous owner has 2 weeks to clear the entire loft after which you will discard everything left behind. Merely cherry-picking the good stuff and leaving you to deal with his remaining crap isn't working for you. If the previous owner isn't willing or able to do that, that is not your concern.

But until then you can't sell stuff that isn't your's to sell. Just like I haven't got the right to go on a spending spree if someone forgets their wallet in my house, these things do not belong to you. It any event - would it be worth the palaver if the previous owner continues to hassle you over the items? Which he might.

harrup

Ulfar wrote: »

Legally and morally right aren't always different. These people left stuff in a property which they no longer own or occupy.
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Forget the morality or standards of the previous owner. This isn't about who owns or occupies the property now either. Nor does it pertain to fittings and fixtures.

If the previous owner had left his car in the OP drive would you say it's now the new owner's right to sell it? The law would not concur. Why would any other item left be different?

It's not about morality or whether the ex owner ( or his tenant) is a pig who deserves to be clobbered with the skis AND the guitar. Appropriating things one doesn't own is theft, never mind WHERE they are located .

I feel for the OP...but it still would be theft. Upon discovering these things in the loft, s/he should have contacted the EA or the vendors solicitor informing them that the loft should be cleared by date XX after which they would dispose of all remaining items. Without doing so, they have to give the items back.

Buffer_Bear

Can't believe the OP has even posted this:eek::eek:....lol

dodger1

satchmeister wrote: »

I think you need to read the post about the stuff under the bed ... and all the other stuff they left which of course they will still leave or have left for the OP to dispose of - ie time and effort.

I'm always wary when original posters don't like the replies so suddenly add extra points to strengthen their story. If people want replies they should tell us the full story in the first place. Much more believable that way.

Tiddlywinks

Moomin21 wrote: »

The estate agent said it was legally ours as we ‘inherited’ it all when we bought the house, so we were looking forward to flogging it all on ebay!

Moomin21 wrote: »

It’s not so much that I want to sell them rather than give them back they aren’t ours, but if we can sell them/give them to a charity shop (as we are doing with the 10+ bin bags of clothes) then we will rather than taking them to the tip...why not?

How long did it take you to come up with that changed version of events - you've gone from rubbing your hands together 'looking forward to flogging them' to now wanting to donate them to charity -come on :cool:.

dodger1 wrote: »

I'm always wary when original posters don't like the replies so suddenly add extra points to strengthen their story. If people want replies they should tell us the full story in the first place. Much more believable that way. (QUOTE]

I absolutely agree - in the face of negative responses the OP now shares the (ahem) whole story.

Seanymph

If they bothered the OP in the loft - and if the condoms bothered the OP - then the time to chase the previous incumbent or owner was when they took over the property.

A call to say 'I have this stuff in the loft, you have three days to pick it up or I'll bin it' - the condition of the house is such that I am not prepared to take delivery or 'I will get this cleaned and send the bill on'.

None of these things have happened.

NOW, months later, having failed to respond to a request for communication, the OP wants to sell the stuff on ebay not give it back.

Holds no water at all with me. I have posted stuff on from the back of kitchen cupboards months after taking possession - it was a little measuring jug which apparently went with an iron, I couldn't bear to throw someone else's stuff away so it sat there for 8 months before the previous owners called and asked for me to post it!

There is nothing mitigating going on here - you don't hold other people's stuff hostage - you give them the chance to take it back.

J_i_m

Without even opening thread I had answerd the question.

"Give it back".

Forget about legality, morals or mitigating circumstances, in the long run the most hassle free solution is to simply give them their stuff back.

Difficult situations can arise if you "stoke the fire", you don't have to start something to make it a whole lot worse. Just do the sensible thing.