Vendor wants their stuff back!

poppysarah

Seanymph wrote: »

Holds no water at all with me. I have posted stuff on from the back of kitchen cupboards months after taking possession - it was a little measuring jug which apparently went with an iron, I couldn't bear to throw someone else's stuff away so it sat there for 8 months before the previous owners called and asked for me to post it!

I think I left some £20 notes in your wallet. They've got a queens head on one side... could you post them back?

Moomin21

1. I’m entitled to change my view of the situation once I have read replies, isn’t that the whole point of asking for advice? The only advice I had obtained previously was the estate agent telling us it was legally ours and we could do what we wanted with it..so yes, I was swayed by this.
2. I am aware posts are often read if they are too long, so I provided more information once I’d read some of the responses that i believed to require more information to, yes, justify my position after a lot of abusive responses.
3. I don’t believe a 26 year old girl working in social care who found a few things in the loft of the first house she has ever bought and doesn’t know what to do is ‘morally bankrupt’ – you know nothing about me, open your mind a little.
4. As others have said, where do you draw the line with what stuff they do or do not take back? If he wanted the internal doors also, would I be ‘morally’ obliged to give him that?
5. Is the vendor ‘morally’ obliged to pay our rent for the 6 months after we were supposed to complete on the house?
6. Agreed – regardless of all this, hassle free solution is to give it back.

Seanymph

poppysarah wrote: »

I think I left some £20 notes in your wallet. They've got a queens head on one side... could you post them back?

But I know you didn't - a £20 is a rare sight in my purse I tell you!

I KNEW it was their jug, it was there when I moved in, so I tucked it into the corner, and left it.

They had a calligraphy copy of the poem 'time' in the same cupboard, and that is about to move with me for the second time. I love the poem, and I love that she had it inside a kitchen cupboard to remind her to take time............ so I adopted the same policy.

These are other people's things (unlike the small change in my purse which is MINE ALL MINE I TELL YOU).

Mrs_Arcanum

Surely it was down to the previous owner landlord to ensue the property was cleared of their tenants stuff prior to the new owners taking possession. With the tenants deposit covering their costs of making things somewhat presentable.

Wondering if the LL kept the deposit anyway!

ess0two

Sounds like the OP has already sold the decent stuff,only option is to tell the guy the stuff has been binned.

Running_Horse

Send them a note:

Come and collect your tut, or the guitar and skis are history.

Only joking, but it would be tempting to put their junk on the lawn, and say they can have the good stuff once it's gone.

IronWolf

Moomin21 wrote: »

Yes, i am obviously immoral and horrible and an example of all the problems in today’s society...i knew these forums were harsh but the amount of assumptions and judgement going on here is ludicrous. If you knew how much cr*p the vendors put us through, you would hit him over the head with the skis...

I agree they aren’t our things, but then is the vendor also going to collect all the furniture they were supposed to have removed before completion? Are they going to remove all the used condoms from under the bed and the rotting food out of the cupboards...oh wait, I’ve already had to do that...

The vendors came back before completion to get what they wanted, or so solicitors/estate agents informed us.

It’s not so much that I want to sell them rather than give them back they aren’t ours, but if we can sell them/give them to a charity shop (as we are doing with the 10+ bin bags of clothes) then we will rather than taking them to the tip...why not?

However, if he wants them, again, we don’t know that they are his, and what if he takes them, and the tenants return saying ‘where are my skis?’ and get nasty? I agree that is the same if we sell them though, as no one gets them.

If you'd given people the whole story they probably wouldn't have said what they did.

If you want a legal leg to stand on, tell him he has 1 week to remove ALL items left behind in your house. Don't give him the skis and the guitar until he does so. After which the items will be discarded. (sell them if you want but dont leave a paper trail, or sell it to someone that knows him!)

mlz1413

Moomin21 wrote: »

1. I’m entitled to change my view of the situation once I have read replies, isn’t that the whole point of asking for advice? The only advice I had obtained previously was the estate agent telling us it was legally ours and we could do what we wanted with it..so yes, I was swayed by this.
2. I am aware posts are often read if they are too long, so I provided more information once I’d read some of the responses that i believed to require more information to, yes, justify my position after a lot of abusive responses.
3. I don’t believe a 26 year old girl working in social care who found a few things in the loft of the first house she has ever bought and doesn’t know what to do is ‘morally bankrupt’ – you know nothing about me, open your mind a little.
4. As others have said, where do you draw the line with what stuff they do or do not take back? If he wanted the internal doors also, would I be ‘morally’ obliged to give him that?
5. Is the vendor ‘morally’ obliged to pay our rent for the 6 months after we were supposed to complete on the house?
6. Agreed – regardless of all this, hassle free solution is to give it back.

I agree with all apart from No 6 ring the vendor and say that as he wasn't prepared to take everything ie vacant possession you have cleared up everything to the tip.

Tell him you hadn't gotten around to the loft as yet due the amount of junk left in the house for you to clear but when you do eventually get time to go up there and empty his stuff the storage charge is £1 a day per item from completion day when you should have had vacant possession and make sure he is aware it's everything in the loft and not just the things of value he has now remembered.

Also ensure the storage is paid into the bank before collection and ask him to post you proof of ownership too.

Hopefully the vendors morals may overwhelm him and he'll let you take ownership of the items for the inconvenience caused.

alezzandro

Moomin21 wrote: »

1. I’m entitled to change my view of the situation once I have read replies, isn’t that the whole point of asking for advice? The only advice I had obtained previously was the estate agent telling us it was legally ours and we could do what we wanted with it..so yes, I was swayed by this.
2. I am aware posts are often read if they are too long, so I provided more information once I’d read some of the responses that i believed to require more information to, yes, justify my position after a lot of abusive responses.
3. I don’t believe a 26 year old girl working in social care who found a few things in the loft of the first house she has ever bought and doesn’t know what to do is ‘morally bankrupt’ – you know nothing about me, open your mind a little.
4. As others have said, where do you draw the line with what stuff they do or do not take back? If he wanted the internal doors also, would I be ‘morally’ obliged to give him that?
5. Is the vendor ‘morally’ obliged to pay our rent for the 6 months after we were supposed to complete on the house?
6. Agreed – regardless of all this, hassle free solution is to give it back.

you're making a fuss about nothing.

1. if you want to return the stuff, return it.

2. if you don't want to return it, say you don't have it anymore because you thought it was old rubbish and didn't see any value in it.

3. if you don't want to return it and want to enter stupid legal discussions, say that you have everything still in the loft, but won't return it because it's in your rights as a free citizen of this country blah blah and also blah blah.

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and if you go with 2. and they say "oh but you had everything 2 weeks ago" reply, "sorry, I don't have anything now because I did Easter cleanings".

Flyboy152

bristolben wrote: »

Vacant possession
Empty. On completion of a sale a seller is obliged to deliver the property with vacant possession which means clear of occupants and of objects which are not included in the sale.

Legally his, morally not.

This is a rented property, the same rules do not apply.