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  • blue_monkey_2
    blue_monkey_2 Posts: 11,435 Forumite
    Also, Drayton Manor do the wrist bands too, I remember using them and some woman shouting at us (from the front of the kiddies ride) 'what the f*** are you doing on there first' when we was let on. Charming language, in front of my children, her children and other peoples children. This was my very first experience of using the bands too.
  • pipkin71
    pipkin71 Posts: 21,821 Forumite
    SingleSue wrote: »
    When people ask me why I am using crutches, I just say "Arthritis" where the real story is an awful lot longer.


    There are many reasons why a parent will not mention the whole list and it is incorrect to assume that the given reason is the only reason.

    Agree here, Sue.

    I do the same and mention the problem that most people will have heard of rather than list all of them :o
    There is something delicious about writing the first words of a story. You never quite know where they'll take you - Beatrix Potter
  • pipkin71
    pipkin71 Posts: 21,821 Forumite
    I understand the need for these concessions. I understand why some children cannot queue and therefore have the option of using exit passes.

    I honestly don't get why the OP feels that he / his child were treated badly by the theme park, nor why they went home with a nasty taste in their mouth ??

    There are more than six rides in the them park. If you use one ride, then you go on some of the lesser rides in the hour before joining the next exit queue.

    Disabled people campaign for equal treatment, not more priviledged treatment.
    There is something delicious about writing the first words of a story. You never quite know where they'll take you - Beatrix Potter
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    Beki88 wrote: »
    I meant with the changes. I emailed legoland and they said as far as they knew it was the same as last year that you can not return to the same ride within an hour. So at 10am you could go on Laser raiders, then 10.15 on boating school etc.

    I asked about what OP had said about you have to wait an hour before you can go on the next big 6 ride, so for instance ride at 10am on Laser raiders but then you have to wait until 11am for say Boating school, and they said it isnt like that as far as they know!

    Then someone else said they enter the queue time on the paper.

    Im just a bit confused with all the different info.

    But these were the exact instructions we were given when we went. We were told we couldn't go on the listed rides for at least one hour after being on another.
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    edited 22 April 2011 at 11:16AM
    EdgEy wrote: »
    I want to be honest and say they are already being rather nice to allow you to skip the queue in the first place, no?
    They are doing a fair amount already to accommodate you and your son. You seem to be moaning over getting "6 rides in 6 hours" on the big rides. To be quite honest, that sounds about right for an able bodied person at the big theme parks.

    But an able-bodied person can go on the rides whenever they like. A family of able-bodied people can sty for the whole day, a disabled child with ASD and ADHD is unlikely to manage to stay for half of that, however, they still pay the same amount, this is the one of the reasons for allowing one carer in for free. The other is tha the disabled person would not be able to go without someone being there to help them. Able-bodied people can go whenever the please.
    However you have the ability to go on other rides and skip the queue, so no issues of boredom or whatever.

    What??????
    I'm not going to claim to be an expert on ADHD but this just seems daft. One ride per hour sounds to me about average for an able bodied person. So you get to skip the queues and get approximately the same amount of rides in anyway.

    That much is blantantly obvious, but why are you pretending to have to know what a disabled child needs at a theme park?
    On the yellow card: I'm pretty sure that people are observant enough to notice you "skipping the queue" (no offense intended) anyway, so what does a sheet of paper matter? I wear glasses, people know my eyesight is broken. People have disabled badges in cars. What is the issue?

    ...............................

    I did actually write three paragraphs of what is like to be child with a condition, which as so many on here have highlighted that it is some to be stigmatised with, but then I thought, "what the flip, why should I even try explaining this to someone like you."

    :wall:
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • jetta_wales
    jetta_wales Posts: 2,168 Forumite
    What on earth is so difficult to understand about being able to use any of the many many other rides without a queue while waiting for the next of the big rides? Able bodied people don't get to do that they just have to stand in a queue for up to 2 hours maybe even longer, just to go on one of the big rides in such places.

    Frankly you're being, selfish, ungrateful and greedy! Get a grip!
    "Life is what you make of it, whoever got anywhere without some passion and ambition?
  • pipkin71
    pipkin71 Posts: 21,821 Forumite
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    Ba disabled child with ASD and ADHD is unlikely to manage to stay for half of that, however, they still pay the same amount, this is the one of the reasons for allowing one carer in for free. The other is tha the disabled person would not be able to go without someone being there to help them. Able-bodied people can go whenever the please.

    So, actually, the disabled person is getting in for half price and the carer is getting in for half price.
    There is something delicious about writing the first words of a story. You never quite know where they'll take you - Beatrix Potter
  • Beki88
    Beki88 Posts: 1,356 Forumite
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    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    But these were the exact instructions we were given when we went. We were told we couldn't go on the listed rides for at least one hour after being on another.

    Hmmm confused then, unless the people who deal with the emails have not been updated yet, which seems a bit silly!


    This is the reply I got:
    Dear Rebecca,
    For this year I still believe that you cannot visit the same ride within an hour, I have not been informed of any changes to this. When you receive your actual exit pass it should detail on them any ‘rules’ and it will be clearly explained upon issuance of the pass. I also believe that your exit pass will some how be marked each time you visit a ride, but this is normal procedure.
    Many thanks
    Sophia
    LEGOLAND Windsor Enquiries Team


    Everything will be ok in the end, and if it isn't ok then it isn't the end :)
  • poet123
    poet123 Posts: 24,099 Forumite
    edited 22 April 2011 at 12:44PM
    I suspect there has been a communication problem here. The email above seems clear enough. There is a list of the top 6 rides on the card and you cannot return to any of those rides within the hour, which is very fair imo.

    It does not mean you cannot go on any of the other top six in that time frame.

    http://www.legoland.co.uk/Plan/FAQ/Exit-Pass-Policy/

    - Parties of greater than four must rotate to accompany the guest with a red hand stamp and may only revisit the same attraction after one hour.

    - Guests with black hand stamps may only use the exit of a ride when accompanied by a red hand stamped person. The aim of the scheme is for the red hand stamped person to get maximum enjoyment from their day.
  • Brassedoff
    Brassedoff Posts: 1,217 Forumite
    Posted again for BrassedOff who wants to know why children cannot queue but can cope with the ride. Google 'Sensory Processing Disorder' and also 'Spacial Awareness'.

    Also I would be interested to know whether you would be happy to queue for an hour next to the child that is constantly bumping into you, barging you you, jumping on your feet, swinging his arms and legs around and hanging from the barriers. Or do you think I should be holding him down for that hour so he screams and screams as his body NEEDS to be moving a lot? He cannot help it. It's part of his disability. Would you be happy queuing next to that child for one hour. And then we might even follow you to the next ride queue and the next.... Either way I'll be tutted at and judged for an hour by the ther parents because of my 'unruly and badly behaved child'.

    But of course, all disabilities are clear cut aren't they?



    Posted again from Page 4:

    We had a lady come to see us from OT and she explained that it is to do with sensory processing.

    Some children are thrill seekers, it is the sensory sensation that it gives. http://leapsandboundstherapy.co.uk/v1/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=54&Itemid=88

    These children are usually the ones that spend a lot of time spinning or cannot sit still for very long, they like to eat stuff they shouldn't (my son eats salt a lot, even off the ground when they have gritted, because he likes the sensation. Even the school have trouble stopping him from eating it).

    Also: http://www.sensory-processing-disorder.com/

    You are right. I would not be happy and if it was your kid doing it, I would be having a word with you and perhaps one with the kid. Just because they have an affliction, there is no excuse for your lack of control of them!

    If you and others who are championing the not queuing cause, use your brains. Tell me that you are having someone stand in the queue because your child has a disability that means they cannot stand there. Nothing else, just that, no other explanation! Then when their turn comes, join the queue for a few seconds.

    Do all these people who are jumping up and down honestly not think "regular" little kids (not talking about teens) get board and don't stand still? Come on, tell me a kid that can sit or stand still for more than a minute or so and I will call you a liar.

    As for Googling stuff, forget it. I don't want to know about it past what what I have read in the past few days. I don't believe a child that cannot queue for reasons of freaking out etc, cannot be pinned in their seat by the safety mechanism that sometimes freaks out regular people. For some, not all, it's give an inch and they take a yard.

    As a parent of two kids who are blessed with good health, but as an uncle of one who died one day old and one who due to MD will die a teenager, I have little sympathy for those who do not challenge, engage and try to prepare their child for adult life.

    I am honoured to know the parents of a young man who is Autistic with Asperger syndrome, that due to not being wrapped in cotton wool and blessed with good parents who would not accept their lot and desired a young adult made to be as "normal" as possible resulted in a young man who still has issues, but works, drives and now goes out with friends down town on nights out like regular late teens. Perhaps they should write a book and some could learn from them?
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