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OneYorkshireLass

Brassedoff wrote: »

I am honoured to know the parents of a young man who is Autistic with Asperger syndrome, that due to not being wrapped in cotton wool and blessed with good parents who would not accept their lot and desired a young adult made to be as "normal" as possible resulted in a young man who still has issues, but works, drives and now goes out with friends down town on nights out like regular late teens. Perhaps they should write a book and some could learn from them?

Maybe he's milder than most people with AS? You can't be 100% sure that his lifestyle, which appears 'normal', is 100% down to the influence of his parents.

Beki88

poet123 wrote: »

I suspect there has been a communication problem here. The email above seems clear enough. There is a list of the top 6 rides on the card and you cannot return to any of those rides within the hour, which is very fair imo.

It does not mean you cannot go on any of the other top six in that time frame.

http://www.legoland.co.uk/Plan/FAQ/Exit-Pass-Policy/

- Parties of greater than four must rotate to accompany the guest with a red hand stamp and may only revisit the same attraction after one hour.

- Guests with black hand stamps may only use the exit of a ride when accompanied by a red hand stamped person. The aim of the scheme is for the red hand stamped person to get maximum enjoyment from their day.

I was just going by what the OP had said, it does seem to me that the rules are the same as when we last went which is totally fair, I wouldnt dream of being able to get off and straight back on again that would be taking the micky!
Perhaps OP got mixed up then?

blue_monkey_2

Brassedoff wrote: »

You are right. I would not be happy and if it was your kid doing it, I would be having a word with you and perhaps one with the kid. Just because they have an affliction, there is no excuse for your lack of control of them!

If you and others who are championing the not queuing cause, use your brains. Tell me that you are having someone stand in the queue because your child has a disability that means they cannot stand there. Nothing else, just that, no other explanation! Then when their turn comes, join the queue for a few seconds.

Do all these people who are jumping up and down honestly not think "regular" little kids (not talking about teens) get board and don't stand still? Come on, tell me a kid that can sit or stand still for more than a minute or so and I will call you a liar.

As for Googling stuff, forget it. I don't want to know about it past what what I have read in the past few days. I don't believe a child that cannot queue for reasons of freaking out etc, cannot be pinned in their seat by the safety mechanism that sometimes freaks out regular people. For some, not all, it's give an inch and they take a yard.

As a parent of two kids who are blessed with good health, but as an uncle of one who died one day old and one who due to MD will die a teenager, I have little sympathy for those who do not challenge, engage and try to prepare their child for adult life.

I am honoured to know the parents of a young man who is Autistic with Asperger syndrome, that due to not being wrapped in cotton wool and blessed with good parents who would not accept their lot and desired a young adult made to be as "normal" as possible resulted in a young man who still has issues, but works, drives and now goes out with friends down town on nights out like regular late teens. Perhaps they should write a book and some could learn from them?

Yes of course, you do not want to know about any neurological condition you cannot see. Why should you have to understand, you'll just continue to sslag off those of us with children who have this condition. I would say is more you DO NOT want to understand it.

And an ADULT with aspergers (yes, he is an adult now) has come a long way since being a CHILD and has learnt to deal with many challenges along the way - you yourself say he still has issues, these issues did not get addressed overnight and I am sure his parents spent many days of not being able to have the life they would have had if they had a 'normal' child (as you so kindly put it).

We are talking about young CHILDREN on this thread, not adults. Children who cannot control their feelings, body or know what is accepted from them from society because many of these conditions come with learning disabilities too.

Can other children wait? Of course they can and yes of course they are bored, and this is why I said that my DD - at the age of 6 - was happy to wait in a queue for almost 2 hours for one ride she really wanted to go on, along with her friend of the same age, without complaint because knew what was expected of her if she wanted to ride it.

You have already said you do not want to be standing next to my son, where do you think he should stand for an hour possibly two if no-one wants to stand next to him? And that is why he get's an exit pass.

And you would be having a word with me will you? And say what exactly? Excuse me madam, control your child. And when I say 'I am trying but he has Autism and SPD' you'll tell me it is no excuse. Maybe you'll tell the person behind me with parkinsons to stop shaking. Because both are neurological conditions where the body cannot be controlled. Maybe Parkinsons is an acceptable disability and SPD not, in your eyes.

You seem bitter that people who have children with disabilities get a little extra to be able to enjoy a day out. Maybe you would prefer that we all stay at home in the future, like the good oild days, so you can enjoy your days out on peace and your 'fun' not be blighted with the likes of us who have kids with disabilities.

You might note that adults do not get the passes for having these conditions but only children do. In the past those of us with kids who have these conditions would not be able to go out, in fact, we rarely go out now because we have to endure ignorant and selfish people such as yourself.

Flyboy152

Beki88 wrote: »

Hmmm confused then, unless the people who deal with the emails have not been updated yet, which seems a bit silly!


This is the reply I got:
Dear Rebecca,
For this year I still believe that you cannot visit the same ride within an hour, I have not been informed of any changes to this. When you receive your actual exit pass it should detail on them any ‘rules’ and it will be clearly explained upon issuance of the pass. I also believe that your exit pass will some how be marked each time you visit a ride, but this is normal procedure.
Many thanks
Sophia
LEGOLAND Windsor Enquiries Team

Sounds to me, even Sophia, is unsure of the procedure.

Flyboy152

poet123 wrote: »

I suspect there has been a communication problem here. The email above seems clear enough. There is a list of the top 6 rides on the card and you cannot return to any of those rides within the hour, which is very fair imo.

It does not mean you cannot go on any of the other top six in that time frame.

This is not how it was explained to us, when we went. We were categorically told, by several people, that we could not go on any of the other top six rides, for an hour, after being on one of the rides.

http://www.legoland.co.uk/Plan/FAQ/Exit-Pass-Policy/

- Parties of greater than four must rotate to accompany the guest with a red hand stamp and may only revisit the same attraction after one hour.

They need to communicate this better, this seems to be a training issue, or one of competence.

- Guests with black hand stamps may only use the exit of a ride when accompanied by a red hand stamped person. The aim of the scheme is for the red hand stamped person to get maximum enjoyment from their day.

Thank you for re-affirming this. Take note, those who accuse carers of "abusing" the system.

Flyboy152

Brassedoff wrote: »

You are right. I would not be happy and if it was your kid doing it, I would be having a word with you and perhaps one with the kid. Just because they have an affliction, there is no excuse for your lack of control of them!

If you and others who are championing the not queuing cause, use your brains. Tell me that you are having someone stand in the queue because your child has a disability that means they cannot stand there. Nothing else, just that, no other explanation! Then when their turn comes, join the queue for a few seconds.

Do all these people who are jumping up and down honestly not think "regular" little kids (not talking about teens) get board and don't stand still? Come on, tell me a kid that can sit or stand still for more than a minute or so and I will call you a liar.

As for Googling stuff, forget it. I don't want to know about it past what what I have read in the past few days. I don't believe a child that cannot queue for reasons of freaking out etc, cannot be pinned in their seat by the safety mechanism that sometimes freaks out regular people. For some, not all, it's give an inch and they take a yard.

As a parent of two kids who are blessed with good health, but as an uncle of one who died one day old and one who due to MD will die a teenager, I have little sympathy for those who do not challenge, engage and try to prepare their child for adult life.

I am honoured to know the parents of a young man who is Autistic with Asperger syndrome, that due to not being wrapped in cotton wool and blessed with good parents who would not accept their lot and desired a young adult made to be as "normal" as possible resulted in a young man who still has issues, but works, drives and now goes out with friends down town on nights out like regular late teens. Perhaps they should write a book and some could learn from them?

Earlier on on this thread I wrote that a certain post had topped my understanding of ignorance....I withdraw that statement and nominate this one instead. :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:

poet123

Was the procedure not outlined on the paperwork?

Flyboy152

poet123 wrote: »

Was the procedure not outlined on the paperwork?

No, it seemed to confirm what we were being told. The wording is very ambiguous and seems to have been drafted by someone who does not understand the use of proper grammar and syntax.

That said, I still see no need for this yellow card, what is wrong with using the "Q-bot" system?

Derivative

A disabled child doesn't "need" anything more than anyone else.

You get to enter the park, go on the top rides and go on the other rides.

The "one ride per hour" limit on the top rides more than makes up for the fact that normally you'd be queuing for roughly an hour.

While others are sat in queues, you can go on some of the less popular rides.

What is hard to understand?

I fully understand that your child requires special treatment due to disability. You seem to be suggesting you should be able to go in and essentially "occupy" the top rides. The park are being reasonable in their compromise.

And really, the sheet is a non-issue, for the reasons I've stated here. You have no argument besides "ugh, you don't understand, ugh, silly bigoted people".

daska

Brassedoff wrote: »

Come on, tell me a kid that can sit or stand still for more than a minute or so and I will call you a liar.

Then you better call me one :mad: My cousin and I spent over an hour queueing at the barber's last week with 4 of our boys: Her 3 'normal' boys aged 4, 6 and 8 were perfectly behaved, talked and played quietly, just as my eldest behaved when he was young; my 3 yr old lad was climbing the walls - developmental delay but no formal diagnosis as yet, enough to have qualified for 100% 1:1 support at pre-school and school though. Honestly, you are talking like an idiot.