Lego Land and DDA

Flyboy152

EdgEy wrote: »

A disabled child doesn't "need" anything more than anyone else.

You get to enter the park, go on the top rides and go on the other rides.

The "one ride per hour" limit on the top rides more than makes up for the fact that normally you'd be queuing for roughly an hour.

While others are sat in queues, you can go on some of the less popular rides.

What is hard to understand?

I fully understand that your child requires special treatment due to disability. You seem to be suggesting you should be able to go in and essentially "occupy" the top rides. The park are being reasonable in their compromise.

And really, the sheet is a non-issue, for the reasons I've stated here. You have no argument besides "ugh, you don't understand, ugh, silly bigoted people".

Oh !!!!!!, get a life and stop trolling.

Derivative

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Oh !!!!!!, get a life and stop trolling.

I personally find the comments here deriding mental health problems as somehow "made up" or something "all children have" as abhorrent.
Those are the trolls.

I simply don't think your child deserves to own a theme park for a day. There is an adequate compromise in place.

You get to go on the top rides once an hour, and other rides within the hour.
That is equal access. The average wait time is around an hour on top rides.

You are asking to be able to sit on top rides all day. Perhaps you wouldn't abuse the system that way, but evidently people have.

pipkin71

blue_monkey wrote: »

.We are talking about young CHILDREN on this thread, not adults. Children who cannot control their feelings, body or know what is accepted from them from society because many of these conditions come with learning disabilities too.

You have already said you do not want to be standing next to my son, where do you think he should stand for an hour possibly two if no-one wants to stand next to him? And that is why he get's an exit pass.

And you would be having a word with me will you? And say what exactly? Excuse me madam, control your child. And when I say 'I am trying but he has Autism and SPD' you'll tell me it is no excuse. Maybe you'll tell the person behind me with parkinsons to stop shaking. Because both are neurological conditions where the body cannot be controlled. Maybe Parkinsons is an acceptable disability and SPD not, in your eyes.

Some good comments, blue_monkey.

mumps

SingleSue wrote: »

When people ask me what is wrong with the boys, I generally say "Autistic" rather than give out the long list, especially as one of their problems is with a bowel disorder which is embarrassing for them to have mentioned.

When people ask me why I am using crutches, I just say "Arthritis" where the real story is an awful lot longer.

Maybe this lady didn't want to draw attention to more embarrassing difficulties the child had, or she didn't want to get into a longer discussion about a condition which causes deafness amongst other symptoms, maybe she just didn't want to give out information to a perfect stranger.

There are many reasons why a parent will not mention the whole list and it is incorrect to assume that the given reason is the only reason.

What you say is absolutely fair, but to be fair to Zziggi I know what they are getting at. I know someone who has a son who is partially sighted. Lovely lad, very bright, very talented, no other problems. His mom laughs when she is talking about his popularity on trips to Alton Towers as he and his siblings/friends get to jump the queue. Not what I say, what his mom says.

poet123

Flyboy152 wrote: »

No, it seemed to confirm what we were being told. The wording is very ambiguous and seems to have been drafted by someone who does not understand the use of proper grammar and syntax.

That said, I still see no need for this yellow card, what is wrong with using the "Q-bot" system?

The wording I quoted was not ambiguous, was that not replicated on the paperwork?

Re the Qbot, obviously that is a moneyspinner for these parks, and as all they have to do is make reasonable adjustments I suspect doling out Qbots does not suit them. However, if you are unhappy with the adjustment level (which you clearly are) then you could purchase a Qbot.

Brassedoff

blue_monkey wrote: »

Yes of course, you do not want to know about any neurological condition you cannot see. Why should you have to understand, you'll just continue to sslag off those of us with children who have this condition. I would say is more you DO NOT want to understand it.

And an ADULT with aspergers (yes, he is an adult now) has come a long way since being a CHILD and has learnt to deal with many challenges along the way - you yourself say he still has issues, these issues did not get addressed overnight and I am sure his parents spent many days of not being able to have the life they would have had if they had a 'normal' child (as you so kindly put it).

We are talking about young CHILDREN on this thread, not adults. Children who cannot control their feelings, body or know what is accepted from them from society because many of these conditions come with learning disabilities too.

Can other children wait? Of course they can and yes of course they are bored, and this is why I said that my DD - at the age of 6 - was happy to wait in a queue for almost 2 hours for one ride she really wanted to go on, along with her friend of the same age, without complaint because knew what was expected of her if she wanted to ride it.

You have already said you do not want to be standing next to my son, where do you think he should stand for an hour possibly two if no-one wants to stand next to him? And that is why he get's an exit pass.

And you would be having a word with me will you? And say what exactly? Excuse me madam, control your child. And when I say 'I am trying but he has Autism and SPD' you'll tell me it is no excuse. Maybe you'll tell the person behind me with parkinsons to stop shaking. Because both are neurological conditions where the body cannot be controlled. Maybe Parkinsons is an acceptable disability and SPD not, in your eyes.

You seem bitter that people who have children with disabilities get a little extra to be able to enjoy a day out. Maybe you would prefer that we all stay at home in the future, like the good oild days, so you can enjoy your days out on peace and your 'fun' not be blighted with the likes of us who have kids with disabilities.

You might note that adults do not get the passes for having these conditions but only children do. In the past those of us with kids who have these conditions would not be able to go out, in fact, we rarely go out now because we have to endure ignorant and selfish people such as yourself.

Finished stamping your feet now? I hope so. Nice to see the ASD, ADHD lobby come out too. Of course no one else has disabilities do the

Never said I had no tolerance. Just you should have the same access, not special. and having spent three hours on a hospital bed yesterday in the neurology dept, I will take no lectures from you or anyone else.

Maybe I cannot get around the said parks as someone with a kid who is perfectly able to walk uses the closest space to the entrance because they have a blue badge. I think you are losing sight of what I said. If you can queue you should, if you cannot, then allowances need to be made.

Yes I do think that a lot of people try to highlight the kids illnesses too much, but then so do those with glass backs. Their action takes away the emphasis from the true sufferers.

But thanks for the lecture. I have just returned from delivering an Easter Egg to a nephew who will not make it into his 20's as he has severe Duchenne muscular dystrophy. But then the Ba%$ards who broke into his house last year had a long list of acronyms of illnesses too. Of course they were highlighted when they were read out in court. ASD, ADHD, AD and laughably OCD, the latter being not able to keep their thieving hands off other peoples property. But then they were convicted and let off due to the poor little darlings illnesses, nice that society and social services know just where to invest tax payers money.

As I said. If you need to use the queue, do so. If not queue like normal people. I assume the carer gets in for free or half price too. After all your average six year old can walk around Lego Land on their own and not need a carer, sorry parent.

As for the lad with Aspergers, his is on the severe scale. Lucky for him he has good parents.

SingleSue

mumps wrote: »

What you say is absolutely fair, but to be fair to Zziggi I know what they are getting at. I know someone who has a son who is partially sighted. Lovely lad, very bright, very talented, no other problems. His mom laughs when she is talking about his popularity on trips to Alton Towers as he and his siblings/friends get to jump the queue. Not what I say, what his mom says.

Oh yes, there will always be some who will use it to their advantage and who knows, the child in question may have had the one disability rather than other hidden ones but we will never know for sure as there are parents (and I am one of them), who will just state the most obvious and known disability for ease of speech or to avoid embarrassment for the child.

I was only giving possible reasons as to why other disabilities may not have been mentioned by the parent.

Re a child standing still, when he was younger, give my eldest son enough of a bribe and he would stand on his head if asked. He was once challenged to stay quiet for the drive to the airport by some friends of ours (me and eldest had gone out to Italy with friends). The deal was if he stayed quiet the entire journey (approx 3 hours), they would each give him 5 euros...they thought their money was safe as for the entire trip, he had only been quiet when asleep.

They lost their money.

blue_monkey_2

As I said Brassedoff. Bitter. Very Bitter. Maybe even jealous? No doubt because of your nephews illness, the parents have never claimed a single thing for him. No. Thought not. Neither is it is our fault your nephew was robbed by someone with the same condition, you cannot blame all of us for that. We can all read from your posts that you do not think our children 'have anything wrong with them'.

Yes, my son has Autism and ADHD, he also has SPD - all conditions which you say do not exist and because 'he can walk', and 'is normal'.

Nice to see the ASD, ADHD lobby come out too

of course, if my son was 'normal' he would not need the extra help he does at school. And it was the school that picked his condition up and gave him 1:1. because every child gets 1:1 don;t they? Nor would I have had to pay £1500 for a carer to go away with us for the weekend because hubby was making the bathroom accessible for him and we would not have running water for the weekend so we went away instead. We do not have family to help out so we pay for someone. All because his ADHD and ASD make life so 'normal' for us. But thank god he can walk right? Because every 6 year old child needs 1:1 care and is still in nappies. For example.

Yes I do think that a lot of people try to highlight the kids illnesses too much, but then so do those with glass backs. Their action takes away the emphasis from the true sufferers

WTH that means I have no idea? That we are making these conditions up so other kids miss out?

Maybe I cannot get around the said parks as someone with a kid who is perfectly able to walk uses the closest space to the entrance because they have a blue badge

Well obviously, if they have a Blue Badge the council issuing them feels the childs condition warrants them issuing it and they will also have doctors letters to back the application up. But as long as they can walk they do not need one. If you say so.

As for the lad with Aspergers, his is on the severe scale. Lucky for him he has good parents.

This comment just goes to show what a t wat you really are tbh. I am glad it was not just me that noticed your attitude either. Parents who have children with neurological conditions deal with people like you every day of our life. Ironically, it is also because of the treatment from people like you that we get 'preferential' treatment at theme parks. I guess we should really be saying thank you then.

OneYorkshireLass

Brassedoff wrote: »

As for the lad with Aspergers, his is on the severe scale. Lucky for him he has good parents.

Wow, my parents must've been s h i t then (!)

sunnyone

birkee wrote: »

Are you as irrational as you sound?

"Balance problems and feelings like sea sickness"? And you take them on a fairground ride?
Are you into torturing children by any chance?
Or was that just an irrational post to support your opinion?

ignorance again about disabilities that you dont understand, people with certain disabilities of the middle ear try to move as much as possible as it seems to settle their condition for a while, since I dont have this and nor do any other members of my family I can only rely on what a couple of memebers of our deaf club relate to us, this disability is entiterly provable unlike the kind that only requires help no to queue but they can then go on rides.