Lego Land and DDA

sunnyone

Zziggi wrote: »

Please re-read my post blue_monkey. I said that maybe the child had other illnesses but the parent didn't mention it. Therefore this lead me to assume the child had hearing problems only. I was very clear that I was assuming the girl had hearing problems only & that I could be wrong. However if the child did only have hearing difficulties then I think it is wrong that they got exit passes. I stand by that. I don't minimise the difficulty that hearing probes cause to individuals but I don't believe that just having hearing difficulties means you can't stand in a queue.

So your child who may not have any problem queueing (prove it) can have exit passes on your say so but another child with disabilities cant have one on your say so yet they can prove their disabilities.

Ever heard of people in glass houses?

There are so many disabilities and no one can just say me and mine, passes, you lot no passes which is just ignorance, you are ignorant because you dont have the foggiest about other disabilities and their affects of standing, stairs, the sun, temperatures, fatigue, the need to have toilets nearby etc. etc. etc.

SingleSue

Zziggi wrote: »

Please re-read my post blue_monkey. I said that maybe the child had other illnesses but the parent didn't mention it. Therefore this lead me to assume the child had hearing problems only. I was very clear that I was assuming the girl had hearing problems only & that I could be wrong. However if the child did only have hearing difficulties then I think it is wrong that they got exit passes. I stand by that. I don't minimise the difficulty that hearing probes cause to individuals but I don't believe that just having hearing difficulties means you can't stand in a queue.

When people ask me what is wrong with the boys, I generally say "Autistic" rather than give out the long list, especially as one of their problems is with a bowel disorder which is embarrassing for them to have mentioned.

When people ask me why I am using crutches, I just say "Arthritis" where the real story is an awful lot longer.

Maybe this lady didn't want to draw attention to more embarrassing difficulties the child had, or she didn't want to get into a longer discussion about a condition which causes deafness amongst other symptoms, maybe she just didn't want to give out information to a perfect stranger.

There are many reasons why a parent will not mention the whole list and it is incorrect to assume that the given reason is the only reason.

GlasweJen

LilacViolet wrote: »

The letter doesnt need to be as specific as that, we have taken one before that just has his DX on it. We got our tickets from merlins Magic Wand last year and they accepted that too.

Just out of interest, what are the 'big 6' rides at Legoland? DS is only small so we only went on the little ones. He loved the water slide ride best.

hardly medical evidence that the person with the disability is unable to queue is it?

Lokolo

SingleSue wrote: »

When people ask me what is wrong with the boys, I generally say "Autistic" rather than give out the long list, especially as one of their problems is with a bowel disorder which is embarrassing for them to have mentioned.

When people ask me why I am using crutches, I just say "Arthritis" where the real story is an awful lot longer.

Maybe this lady didn't want to draw attention to more embarrassing difficulties the child had, or she didn't want to get into a longer discussion about a condition which causes deafness amongst other symptoms, maybe she just didn't want to give out information to a perfect stranger.

There are many reasons why a parent will not mention the whole list and it is incorrect to assume that the given reason is the only reason.

!!!!!! are you even reading Zziggi's post? She/he said IF hearing was the only disability then it's not fair. Stop trying to say that Zziggi is some horrible person who hates disabled people.

Nothing about if there were other "hidden" disabilities not being shown.

Do you think someone that is deaf - being their only disability - should be given an exit pass, yes or no?

sunnyone

Lokolo wrote: »

!!!!!! are you even reading Zziggi's post? She/he said IF hearing was the only disability then it's not fair. Stop trying to say that Zziggi is some horrible person who hates disabled people.

Nothing about if there were other "hidden" disabilities not being shown.

Do you think someone that is deaf - being their only disability - should be given an exit pass, yes or no?

Yes!

Deaf covers many diffrent things and can include balancing, feelings of see sickness etc. the parents of that child arnt here to defend themselves and nor should they have to, the park gives them the same rights as not provable in simple tests ailments such as Zziggi's child has.

Zziiggi and your kind only hate kids with disabilities that dont suit your view of disability and have the temerity to go go to theme parks like you take your kids too, even though it goes againsy YOUR kids disabilities and not the other childrens.

Lokolo

sunnyone wrote: »

Yes!

Deaf covers many diffrent things and can include balancing, feelings of see sickness etc. the parents of that child arnt here to defend themselves and nor should they have to, the park gives them the same rights as not provable in simple tests ailments such as Zziggi's child has.

Zziiggi and your kind only hate kids with disabilities that dont suit your view of disability and have the temerity to go go to theme parks like you take your kids too, even though it goes againsy YOUR kids disabilities and not the other childrens.

Thank you. This is where I completely disagree. I don't see why someone should be given exit passes (which aim to stop having to queue for such a long time), because of a disability which has no impact on this.

Being deaf does not mean you cannot stand in queues; neither does balancing, sickness etc. I think this is where it needs to be divided. If the disability means they cannot queue - then yes, exit pass fine. But for all disabilities? No.

Although I am very lucky and don't have any sort of disability (apart from I cannot travel backwards nor read whilst travelling), should anything ever happen to myself, I would not expect help (which a lot of people here seem to) for something that has no impact. I don't see how someone being deaf (as Zziggi has said, if that is their ONLY disability), means they cannot stand in a queue.

sunnyone

Lokolo wrote: »

Thank you. This is where I completely disagree. I don't see why someone should be given exit passes (which aim to stop having to queue for such a long time), because of a disability which has no impact on this.

Being deaf does not mean you cannot stand in queues; neither does balancing, sickness etc. I think this is where it needs to be divided. If the disability means they cannot queue - then yes, exit pass fine. But for all disabilities? No.

Although I am very lucky and don't have any sort of disability (apart from I cannot travel backwards nor read whilst travelling), should anything ever happen to myself, I would not expect help (which a lot of people here seem to) for something that has no impact. I don't see how someone being deaf (as Zziggi has said, if that is their ONLY disability), means they cannot stand in a queue.

Your wrong, people with a vested right cant include and exclude other disabilities as and when they feel like it and niether can you as a support of one such candidate, you dont have a single clue about other disabilities just like you hero.

SingleSue

Lokolo wrote: »

!!!!!! are you even reading Zziggi's post? She/he said IF hearing was the only disability then it's not fair. Stop trying to say that Zziggi is some horrible person who hates disabled people.

Nothing about if there were other "hidden" disabilities not being shown.

Do you think someone that is deaf - being their only disability - should be given an exit pass, yes or no?

Erm, I was not making out she is a nasty person, just merely pointing out reasons why the parent MAY have only mentioned their child being deaf as she had been confused as to why only this had been mentioned.

As to an exit pass, well to be honest, I have no idea as I don't have full knowledge of the varying degrees of deafness and their impact on a child.

Lokolo

sunnyone wrote: »

Your wrong, people with a vested right cant include and exclude other disabilities as and when they feel like it and niether can you as a support of one such candidate, you dont have a single clue about other disabilities just like you hero.

I never said they could exclude other disabilities. But the things you have listed have no impact on being able to queue - so why should they be allowed to have the pass?

By all means, should a deaf person have a disability that does prevent them from being able to queue - I would be happy for them to have the pass, but in simple terms of someone just being deaf - without any other impact, then no.

As for your last sentence (bit in red), it doesn't even make any sense so cannot comment. As for saying I haven't a single clue on disabilities then I am afraid you are completely wrong, as one of my friends is deaf, my mum has epilepsy, and my best friends step brothers both have tourettes.

Lokolo

SingleSue wrote: »

Erm, I was not making out she is a nasty person, just merely pointing out reasons why the parent MAY have only mentioned their child being deaf as she had been confused as to why only this had been mentioned.

As to an exit pass, well to be honest, I have no idea as I don't have full knowledge of the varying degrees of deafness and their impact on a child.

Fair enough I apologise, your post seemed to indicate to me that you weren't being very nice