Lego Land and DDA

jetta_wales

Alton towers web site says you need a doctors letter. My Dr would look at me stupid if I asked him for a letter so I can prove to a theme park that being out of shade from the sun for too long causes me great pain. For a theme park! I'm sorry but that's just going too far to expect Dr's to give us special letter with our reason for not being able to queue.

I can only think that these facilities must have been being really badly abused previously for them to be so tight about it now and for some parks to now only be allowing 1 person to be with you.

Flyboy152

jetta_wales wrote: »

Alton towers web site says you need a doctors letter. My Dr would look at me stupid if I asked him for a letter so I can prove to a theme park that being out of shade from the sun for too long causes me great pain. For a theme park! I'm sorry but that's just going too far to expect Dr's to give us special letter with our reason for not being able to queue.

I can only think that these facilities must have been being really badly abused previously for them to be so tight about it now and for some parks to now only be allowing 1 person to be with you.

I think it is too many miserable bigoted people complaining unnecessarily, about disabled people getting a bit extra. They see people walking through to a ride (many of whom have paid extra for priority queuing) and are just jealous.

Shame on the parks for even giving them the time of day.

jetta_wales

The system you've mentioned in Lego Land seems like a perfect fair solution to me but sadly it looks like other parks are going a lot further than that to the point where a family with a disabled person would not be able to enjoy the day together as a family.

daska

Flyboy152 wrote: »

I think it is too many miserable bigoted people complaining unnecessarily, about disabled people getting a bit extra. They see people walking through to a ride (many of whom have paid extra for priority queuing) and are just jealous.

Shame on the parks for even giving them the time of day.

:rotfl:Moral indignation in most cases is, 2% moral, 48% indignation, and 50% envy. - Vittorio De Sica

warehouse

Flyboy152 wrote: »

I think it is too many miserable bigoted people complaining unnecessarily, about disabled people getting a bit extra. They see people walking through to a ride (many of whom have paid extra for priority queuing) and are just jealous.

Shame on the parks for even giving them the time of day.

You are so wrong it's unbelievable. It's the people who don't need to queue yet are there because they are playing the system. Stop looking at the able bodied complainers, start looking at the scumbags who can queue yet choose to abuse the system. Surely you must notice the queues at the exits getting longer, everyone else has.

Brassedoff

warehouse wrote: »

You are so wrong it's unbelievable. It's the people who don't need to queue yet are there because they are playing the system. Stop looking at the able bodied complainers, start looking at the scumbags who can queue yet choose to abuse the system. Surely you must notice the queues at the exits getting longer, everyone else has.

Hear, hear. I have a Friend who has a son with bad aspergers. In His case he persevered, the family and all our circle of friends were told to treat and engage him as if he never had the condition. It prepared him for life in a great way. He now works, does a physical job after completing his A levels. Yet his cousin who is far less severe is mother coddled and will not even take himself to the toilet. What I am saying is two kids, one strong parent, one weak. Two different results.

As a "disabled" person, i.e one with a physical disability, it really cheeses me off when a non infirm person who can clearly be treated as a regular person is not. You see this a lot with many (not all) parents who do not have the patience or parenting skills to not queue with regular customers.

Btw, I accept there are cases where this is the exception not the rule. Some kids and adults cannot cope.

I would love to go to Alton Towers, but abled bodied "disabled" people take the spaces, when they can walk as well as a regular person.

Flyboy152

warehouse wrote: »

You are so wrong it's unbelievable. It's the people who don't need to queue yet are there because they are playing the system. Stop looking at the able bodied complainers, start looking at the scumbags who can queue yet choose to abuse the system. Surely you must notice the queues at the exits getting longer, everyone else has.

The queues have not been getting longer at all, certainly not becasue of disabled people. What most of these ignorants are not getting, is the parks operate priority queuing, for those who pay extra. They perceive it as someone who is claiming to be disabled, but is perfectly able to queue and not bothering to explore other reasons, or to find out more about the people they are complaining about. This is evidenced by some of the remarks made on this thread.

How do you believe people are "playing the system?"

poet123

Flyboy152 wrote: »

The queues have not been getting longer at all, certainly not becasue of disabled people. What most of these ignorants are not getting, is the parks operate priority queuing, for those who pay extra. They perceive it as someone who is claiming to be disabled, but is perfectly able to queue and not bothering to explore other reasons, or to find out more about the people they are complaining about. This is evidenced by some of the remarks made on this thread.

How do you believe people are "playing the system?"

You may not be playing the system, but sadly others are. In Disney they have a similar system and it is so obvious it is being abused. Hordes of hangers on accompany the disabled person (or in many cases the person too fat to walk who is using a mobility scooter) They then jump off the scooter and hop onto the ride with their entourage.

No one begrudges a child with an issue the ability to bypass the queue, but I do think that the parents who have posted here who try to de senitise their kids to the issues, are, in the long run, doing them more of a favour than those who accommodate every whim. Depending on the severity of the condition of course.

Some children with ASD/ADD/ADHD cannot queue without distress, but I do have to agree with the poster who queried the advisability of those children going on such major rides. The two do not marry up.

I think the Legoland system is emminently fair.

iwannanicerlife

I'm a Merlin passholder and my daughter qualifies for an exit pass. We had to show a consultant's letter at Legoland on our first visit (which was carefully looked at and date checked) and this is now logged on the system - a DLA letter hasn't been accepted for sometime.

We visited Legoland for the first time this season last week and thought the new scheme was great - much fairer all round. (I was surprised at what they classed as the "top 6" though.) My daughter is very grateful for her exit pass and appreciates that we would not be able to visit Legoland without it.

I too think a lot of the increased numbers of people are due to q-bots but people automatically think they are disabled "queue jumpers".....

I can confirm it was the queue length that was entered on our card, and we were told that it was up to a maximum of one hour (I haven't got our yellow card to hand, but I think it does state this).

For those of you who think the new system is unfair, I suggest you look at other Merlin attractions new disabled policies where you are only allowed the disabled person plus one carer to use the exit queues. I know some of you may think that's fair, but it hardly qualifies as a family day out if you can't spend the day together. I'm not sure what will happen when I visit on my own with both my young daughters either, I presume they will use some discretion as I can't send my 9 year old off on her own ......

I really can't fault Legoland's scheme......:T

LilacViolet

jetta_wales wrote: »

Alton towers web site says you need a doctors letter. My Dr would look at me stupid if I asked him for a letter so I can prove to a theme park that being out of shade from the sun for too long causes me great pain. For a theme park! I'm sorry but that's just going too far to expect Dr's to give us special letter with our reason for not being able to queue.

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The letter doesnt need to be as specific as that, we have taken one before that just has his DX on it. We got our tickets from merlins Magic Wand last year and they accepted that too.

Just out of interest, what are the 'big 6' rides at Legoland? DS is only small so we only went on the little ones. He loved the water slide ride best.