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Fuels going up again!!!!!!!
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Since my OP I've filled up twice again, and the price of diesel has gone up a further 3p!
I've done over a thousand miles and ferried 5 people and all our gear about at an average of 43MPG in a Merc Vito. And no we can't get all our gear on 5 bikes nor would they allow us on the M1 i think.
Lets face it, the world today is what it is. SOME people do need a vehicle to get about whatever others may think.
And when I don't need my big van,yes I do take the train and get on my bike!0 -
Yes but if you're no longer spending £300, £400 or £500+ a month for a car, running cost, insurance, maintenance etc.....you can afford the minimal additional costs associated to other general purchases.
Have you thought that through?
I dont see what you're getting at. I have a bike - in fact I have several and I use them frequently - this has no bearing on my requirement to own a a car though. Owning and using a bike will not automatically save the hundreds of pounds you claim.
Also, have you considered the effects of an oil price shock to the already fragile economy? What if we are tipped back into recession and jobs start to go? People could lose their jobs due to this.0 -
pompeyrich wrote: »When I started driving, 1977, petrol was 69p a gallon, around 15p a litre and I took home £15 a week, so if I spent all my income on petrol I would get 100 litres. At todays prices 100 litres would cost me about £140, less than 2 days money for me.
You are (hopefully) in a somewhat better job than what you were doing in 1977.
Can you compare your fuel cost per litre against the average wage of someone 34 years younger than you doing whatever it was you did in 1977?0 -
thescouselander wrote: »I dont see what you're getting at. I have a bike - in fact I have several and I use them frequently - this has no bearing on my requirement to own a a car though. Owning and using a bike will not automatically save the hundreds of pounds you claim.
Also, have you considered the effects of an oil price shock to the already fragile economy? What if we are tipped back into recession and jobs start to go? People could lose their jobs due to this.
same for me
all it saves is fuel and some insurance for lower mileage
still have all the other costs of owning a car0 -
You are (hopefully) in a somewhat better job than what you were doing in 1977.
Can you compare your fuel cost per litre against the average wage of someone 34 years younger than you doing whatever it was you did in 1977?
Assuming that £15 was for a full-time job, 40 hours at minimum wage these days would get you about £250, which is about 190 litres in today's money. So it's about half the price in real terms.
If it was part-time, then the real price hasn't changed significantly.0 -
According to the emails I receive, fuel in my area went up twice today !
Bring on 150p a litre !0 -
And what about that penny that ALWAYS gets added to EVERY transaction?!?!
Never noticed that.Love putting the prices up, just to see people moaning about it a little bit more. Quiet simple, if you can't afford to fill up, don't drive. Chances are there are a very few number of people that really need their car.
*awaits the 'I need it to get to work' comments*
And what is wrong with that?The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
£15 for a mug?? That's far more of a ripoff than 130-odd a gallon or whatever it is at the moment.
One pound thirty a gallon??????? Where do you get petrol for that price, we all need to know.The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
Worldwide, something like 40-50% of all oil is used in transport.
I would hazard a guess that a lot of this is personal automobile use.
So yes, if everyone cycled more, we'd at least delay fuel rises.
Needs global action though.
In what economic principles does that exist?The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0
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