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Morrisons Cafe...unruly kids and shopping trolleys!

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  • had-enough-now
    had-enough-now Posts: 52 Forumite
    edited 16 April 2011 at 7:10PM
    How many of the poorly behaved children we all witness actually have a recognised medical condition? Not many, I'd guess.

    It's more now about bad parenting - I'm not saying that ADHD is - I'm saying that most unruly behaviour is...

    Parents now sit or walk around texting on their phone or talking to their mates and have little quality interaction with their kids - other than the 'shut it' or 'siddown' kind of shout every now and again.

    Also, ADHD etc does not automatically give a child (or parent) an excuse for just naughty behaviour - appropriate communication and discipline should still be used... some simply think that having this label means anything goes... well, it shouldn't.

    I completely agree with you. His medical diagnosis does not give me any excuse to be a bad parent. I never text when out as I am permanently watching him for any kind of meltdown which would indicate that it is time for us to leave.

    As i say, we go there as a treat ocassionally to recognise his good behaviour which he works hard at. It gives him a goal, something to keep him focussed and makes it a bit more manageable. If we're there, and he or any of my other 2 children start acting up they are given one warning. If it continues, we leave whether we've finished eating or not.

    The reason I posted was to highlight to some of the people who appear to be quite ignorant that not all misbehaved children are the fault of the parent. I do the best job I can to keep my son under control, sometimes its not possible, but I refuse to be branded a bad/rubbish parent due to something I have no control over the majority of the time, and I refuse to be a hermit just because some people think/believe that children should be seen and not heard. He's entitled to a life just as much as the next person.
  • Azari
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    I completely agree with you. His medical diagnosis dies not give me any excuse to be a bad parent. I never text when out as I am permanently watching him for any kind of meltdown which would indicate that it us time for us to leave.

    As i say, we go there as a treat ocassionally to recognise his good behaviour which he works hard at. It gives him a goal, something to keep him focussed and makes it a bit more manageable. If we're there, and he or any of my other 2 children start acting up they are given one warning. If it continues, we leave whether we've finished eating or not.

    The reason I posted was to highlight to some of the people who appear to be quite ignorant that not all misbehaved children are the fault of the parent. I do the best job I can to keep my son under control, sometimes its not possible, but I refused to be branded a bad/rubbish parent due to something I have no control over the majority of the time, and I refuse to be a hermit just because some people think/believe that children should be seen and not heard. He's entitled to a life just as much as the next person.

    Nicely stated. :)

    I think one of the problems is that so many people who are not the greatest parents have jumped on the ADHD bandwagon and use it as an excuse for children who are simply badly behaved.

    This has the unfortunate effect of reducing the sympathy and tolerance that those with children who actually do suffer from the condition should be entitled to expect from reasonable people. :(
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  • bobbitz
    bobbitz Posts: 31 Forumite
    Seeing as you like to point out everyone else's errors can you please get your self a dictionary.

    It's appropriately ok :-D

    Actually, a dictionary probably isn't required but please pay the same attention to your own posts as you do everyone else s.

    Alas, these things happen when typing on an iPhone at 4 in the morning. You're just tetchy because you don't understand the difference between two entirely separate words.
  • Morglin wrote: »
    I think kids should be banned from all cafes, restaurants and pubs - can't they just go in places like MacDonalds, and give the rest of us a break?........;)

    Other than that, the only supermarket cafe I would bother with is Waitrose - the others ae usually hot, noisy and crowded.

    Lin :)

    Bit drastic. I've seen a lot of children in Shops, Restaurants and Pubs who are quite capable of behaving. Just the other day I went to frankie and bennies with my friend for a meal and we were sat near a couple with 3 young children. They were all sat down talking and playing amongst themselves without disturbing anyone else. They did at some points get a bit loud but the parents were quick to act upon it. It's down to the parents who don't discipline their damn children.

    Seriously, your kids rely on you to teach them what's right and wrong, calling them names like 'Darling' and Angel' when they're acting up makes me feel sick.

    Oh and also, when your kids refuse to put something back which they can't have in a shop. Don't say 'Put that back or the man will tell you off!' That really !!!!es me off. You discipline your damn children not make me out to be a bad person thank you.

    Rant over lol
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  • Quenastoise
    Quenastoise Posts: 341 Forumite
    I won't deny that I haven't at times struggled with my son misbehaving in public places but I also think that sometimes the childless among us need to be aware that "children should be seen and not heard" is something that belongs to decades long gone and that sometimes children are simply bursting with energy/boredom/not concentrating despite your best efforts.

    Most parents I know who take their children in public places certainly don't chat on their mobiles whilst their children run riot, most of us would die of embarrassment, I am sure. Most of my friends take some activity (colouring book, DS, etc.) to keep the children entertained whilst waiting for the food.

    And as to Morrisons, I was in the Bude store last weekend, and DS was so engrossed in their Heroes activity pack that he asked to return the day after for another one. I will happily not take credit for his good behaviour that day ;)
    Keep calm and carry on
  • pmduk
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    Most parents I know who take their children in public places certainly don't chat on their mobiles whilst their children run riot, most of us would die of embarrassment, I am sure

    Unfortunately that doesn't happen in any of the places I frequent. I've given up using one branch of wetherspoons because of the number of children using it as an adventure playground.
  • missile
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    You lot should all count your blessings (horrible kids aside!); we're a 40 mile round trip from ANY large supermarket! :o
    Some would say you are fortunate :j
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  • hcb42
    hcb42 Posts: 5,962 Forumite
    we are miles and miles from nearest tesco, and I thought we were blessed...

    now they are planning one about 2 miles away :(
  • Tiddlywinks
    Tiddlywinks Posts: 5,777 Forumite
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    I also think that sometimes the childless among us need to be aware that "children should be seen and not heard" is something that belongs to decades long gone and that sometimes children are simply bursting with energy/boredom/not concentrating despite your best efforts.

    So - if they are bursting with energy then take them to an appropriate place to deal with that (park, garden, playground etc) - don't take them to a place where they need to be quiet and / or sit still.

    It's simple really. Don't blame the people that find the behaviour unacceptable - deal with the bad behaviour!
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  • So - if they are bursting with energy then take them to an appropriate place to deal with that (park, garden, playground etc) - don't take them to a place where they need to be quiet and / or sit still.

    So if it's lunch time, all are hungry, would you sit miserably on a park bench whilst little one runs around on the play equipment ?

    Personally, I would take him to the cafe, try to get him to behave/distract him/occupy him, get food in all of us ASAP and get on with the rest of our day
    Keep calm and carry on
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