Cheeky Driver's or Not?!

Strider590

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

matbe we are just too polite:T:T:T

But we're not, that's the trouble.... You only have to look at someone the wrong way and your in for the middle finger

Lum

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

The fact is I'm not decrying the zip system, I don't know how many times I have to state that, but untill it is adopted totally, not just by a handfull of what are seen to be "cheeky" and impatient drivers it is a recipe for road rage. Thats my point, not whether the zip is a better system.

So you're saying you should do it wrong because everybody else does it wrong too?

cyclonebri1

skiddlydiddly wrote: »

Bri-it sounds as if you have been up the massive hill into Alfreton from Shirland(I think), I've seen a trucker get out and threaten to smack a driver that dared to pass him where it starts to merge at the top.Seen plenty trying to block both lanes too.

Yep mate that's exactly the one I was thinking about, it's horrendous every single day.
Markham road in Chesterfield from West bars to the bus station is no better.:eek::eek:

cyclonebri1

Lum wrote: »

So you're saying you should do it wrong because everybody else does it wrong too?

No, I'm saying the road layouts are NOT marked to allow this to happen, they are marked very early to ensure that overtakers get back in early.

If the situation exists where a road is marked to indicate a certain side of the road narrows or that lane ends, then the onus is for the traffic in that lane to merge with the continous lane.

That is the situation we have on our roads. Everyone does'nt do it wrong, but a few habitually race to the front of the hold up only to find their lane is closed and to try and barge into traffic that has merged correctly.

Press for change if you want but drive to present guidelines untill then;)

almillar

Present 'guidelines' say use the zipper system. Presently the law or the Highway Code don't demand it.
We've all agreed that the zipper system is good, can't we agree, as 10 or so people in this thread to use it? Imagine Cyclonebri - you'll never be sitting in the inside lane tracking the guy in front's bumper in case someone tries to get in! Teach the country, make the queues shorter and faster, and block fewer junctions, surely that's worth the odd swear word!

cyclonebri1

almillar wrote: »

Present 'guidelines' say use the zipper system. Presently the law or the Highway Code don't demand it.
We've all agreed that the zipper system is good, can't we agree, as 10 or so people in this thread to use it? Imagine Cyclonebri - you'll never be sitting in the inside lane tracking the guy in front's bumper in case someone tries to get in! Teach the country, make the queues shorter and faster, and block fewer junctions, surely that's worth the odd swear word!

You still don't get my point do you, It's no good 10 people using it if 20 million other motorists select the correct lane when it is indicated.
Untill it is widely adopted you can't play by a 2nd set of rules.

Take the example I put to Skiddly. All the traffic taking the main road from the peak district through Chesterfield uses Markham Road. It's dual carriageway but still in a 30 for about 1/2mile then narrows to 1 lane straight on and right hand lane right turn only.
This road is always busy, it's the 1st oportunity for light traffic to pass hgvs after crawling into town. Fine when there's little traffic, you can usually cut back in provided you know about the lane restriction.
But during peak periods it's havoc, not only is there no space for anyone to merge, drivers sat in the rh lane with the left hand indicator on waiting for the lights to change to make a gap block access for the right turners.:mad:

You can't go out and try it on a regular bass, out roads are not geared up for it and there are too many situations where you will end up in trouble. Can I say end of again;);)

Ps Don't want to hear of you and Strider getting a wheel brace across the windscreen:eek:

almillar

I get your point perfectly well - your point is the same as your whole problem - you're going with the crowd! Ever see people put on their hazard lights on the motorways when the slow down when there's a queue ahead? Ever see some cars that actually apply the hazard lights when you slam on the brakes? None of this is in the highway code, in fact according to the highway code you're not meant to use hazards unless stationary! Evolution innit?!
It's not the correct lane, it's 2 into 1, that's 3 lanes - change your mentality. The drivers in the outside lane also need to change their mentality - they shouldn't indicate, and shouldn't be trying to CHANGE lane early (before the merge point) IN A QUEUING SITUATION. They (and those in the left lane) should drive up to the merge point, and drive on behind ONE car from the other lane. As stated, this is different from free-flowing traffic.
Obviously no, you can't say end of. End of ;-)

cyclonebri1

almillar wrote: »

I get your point perfectly well - your point is the same as your whole problem - you're going with the crowd! Ever see people put on their hazard lights on the motorways when the slow down when there's a queue ahead? Ever see some cars that actually apply the hazard lights when you slam on the brakes? None of this is in the highway code, in fact according to the highway code you're not meant to use hazards unless stationary! Evolution innit?!
It's not the correct lane, it's 2 into 1, that's 3 lanes - change your mentality. The drivers in the outside lane also need to change their mentality - they shouldn't indicate, and shouldn't be trying to CHANGE lane early (before the merge point) IN A QUEUING SITUATION. They (and those in the left lane) should drive up to the merge point, and drive on behind ONE car from the other lane. As stated, this is different from free-flowing traffic.
Obviously no, you can't say end of. End of ;-)

I don't have a problem but sooner or later you will, the roads are clearly marked as to which is about to end, hit someone by trying to barge in and see how many witnesses stand in your favour.

I'm not making this personal, I don't have a "problem", I don't need to "try it", and don't for a minute think I never do this as you seem to suggest. The difference between you and me is that when I pull that move I know who has to give way, and I know I'm going to enrage others.

You do it your way but don't ever try the last second merge on me, sorry, but that's how I and lots of others view the situation as everyday at the same awkward junction we sit in the correct lane and some prat in a repmobile who has time for no one tries to pass a complete lane of queuing traffic:mad:, (that's the closest I can find to a road rage emi)

AlMillars next post?;

"What's the best way to remove a wheel brace from up ones rectum"

almillar

Nothing personal at all, and we've established that there are loads of drivers with the same opinion as you and fewer with the same opinion as me. You're all wrong though
I'll again reiterate that the zipper system applies in queues only, and there is NO barging in at the last minute. 2 lanes of queuing traffic, one at a time from each lane goes into the single lane. Everyone knows where they stand, no-one jumps any queue, no-one should get peeved.
But you go ahead and steam away on the inside lane if you like, cursing those who 'fly' past you trying to make a system work.
I take it you pull up the handbrake every time you come to a STOP junction too?

cyclonebri1

almillar wrote: »

Nothing personal at all, and we've established that there are loads of drivers with the same opinion as you and fewer with the same opinion as me. You're all wrong though
I'll again reiterate that the zipper system applies in queues only, and there is NO barging in at the last minute. 2 lanes of queuing traffic, one at a time from each lane goes into the single lane. Everyone knows where they stand, no-one jumps any queue, no-one should get peeved.
But you go ahead and steam away on the inside lane if you like, cursing those who 'fly' past you trying to make a system work.
I take it you pull up the handbrake every time you come to a STOP junction too?[/QUOTE]


Yes, we always are:rotfl::rotfl:

There you go again making submissions about my style of driving about which you know nothing, hence the "personnal" comment, just because I choose the correct method to approach a bottleneck.

For what it's worth I've probably pulled more strokes on the road than you ever will, stll do on occaision, but the difference here is I know when I'm taking a risk or pulling a dodgy move and accept the risks involved.

Anyway enough of your bait taken,