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20yrs_agent

summer_boy wrote: »

Apologies it's Wednesday 4th May

maybe an organised coach trip to bradford with banners and plackareds ,crook by name crook by nature,:mad:

teamspirit

bashtheagents wrote: »

You cant all start throwing your toys out of your pram until the scheme has run at least six weeks, get your DM to log all your deductions and then average it out and see how you stand, gone are the days when we could earn a couple of grand for putting on competition customers with no penalties, i still earn on average £18.00 per hour but i control my arrears, and i know for a fact that my hardworking DM & AM have got zilch this year in bonus and are under alot of pressure to get results. The scheme is aimed at rewarding agents and not collectors which most of you class yourself as ( there is a big difference ).

I dont class myself as a collector, if i did i wouldnt have lasted in the job as long as i have and built up the round as i have. I also control my arrears and under the scheme havent lost anything. But at best I will lose £60 this week, through various cases, CAB, debt management and utr's. We had penalties in our branch which wiped out some of the promotion gains so people didnt just put on anything for a quick gain. I have always given new ideas a fair trail before i give a judgement on it, but this is so flawed. Over the longer period you give it, it can only get worse. Because even if you got every cust back to quality, after that you would only have losses as you'd have no arrears to improve. which is what ive said in a previous post. Even some dm's in my branch agree that this is the case. By all means if something has to be done because of the slide in quality, think of something less drastic than this. The hits are too large to cope with in one week. Under the old IQ system, non payers cost you more in the long run but the deductions were smaller so easier to manage. can you honestly say its ok to justify an agent losing £115 of a £140 wage in one week? on a book they took on that was never the greatest of quality in the first place and half the customers they havent even signed up.

20yrs_agent

try to get agents together for coach trip to bradford with banners and placards IS THIS LEGAL,

bashtheagents

Do you know that if the win is more that one weeks rate it does not show.

What shareholder in their right mind will vote crook out

neilp66

20yrs_agent wrote: »

maybe an organised coach trip to bradford with banners and plackareds ,crook by name crook by nature,:mad:

this is the perfect opportunity for all agents to attend and voice our anger and frustration at these shareholders who are getting richer from the illegal deductions taken from us,

The annual general meeting will be held on 4 May 2011 at the head office of Provident Financial plc, No. 1 Godwin Street, Bradford, BD1 2SU

neilp66

20yrs_agent wrote: »

try to get agents together for coach trip to bradford with banners and placards IS THIS LEGAL,

its as legal as them taking our money without our consent,

scooby088

To all the provident agents posting on here this is a public forum and anyone can contribute to this thread.

20yrs_agent

WELL AS U CAN GUESS BY MY USER NAME IVE BEEN WITH PROV FOR 20YRS,this new pay structure is so much like the old IQ system ,but much worse,ive built up a good round in a very bad area over these yrs ,and so have a lot of agents,ive never been so un happy ,my customers are saying they cant do that to you,they can not believe it but hey thats prov for u its always us agents they hit everytime how much more can we take ,theres so much bad feeling it cant possibly go on ????? if anyone is organising a face book page im sure there are 11,000 agents that would join our cause .

bashtheagents

Why not put a new commission structure to the board ?

bashtheagents

Judging by the agents i have spoken too , only 25% are unhappy and Mr Crook will settle for that.