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Incapacity Benefit migration to ESA

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  • Scared45
    Scared45 Posts: 75 Forumite
    pinklady21 wrote: »
    Best of Luck - do let us know how you get on!
    Pinklady21

    I will, and you've been a big help to me.
  • pinklady21
    pinklady21 Posts: 870 Forumite
    NEH wrote: »
    Well i had to ring ATOS and ask if they had parking near their centre, they answered yes....Unfortuantely they weren't entirely truthful as you weren't allowed to park in their car park you had to park in the multi storey a fair walk away....

    When i got there and realised i rang the number as i was very poorly that day and a very helpful lady helped me out and implied it wasn't the first time this had happened (rolleyesmilie) I found out from my charity that they seem to do this so that you have to walk to the assessment centre so that they can say you are able to walk so far...

    So they use tricks and techniques so that you don't score highly on points...


    So true - the way theses folks go about the 'testing' process is a nightmare, set up to make claimants fail!

    Beware the type of 'sideways question' too eg "when you watch television do you prefer Eastenders or Coronation Street?"
    No they are not having a cosy chat about last night's telly, they are in fact trying to establish how long you can sit still and concentrate for.

    CountryGuy posted a link to the ATOS training document a few posts back - it is 181 pages long, so took me a very long time to get through it, but quite illuminating in how they are told to go about their task.
    I think it is called WTA handbook or similar.
    Draconian stuff indeed.....

    Pinklady21
  • zzzLazyDaisy
    zzzLazyDaisy Posts: 12,497 Forumite
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    diolch wrote: »
    I haven't had a look for a few weeks, but is the ESA50 that you can download the new March 2011 version? Last time I looked it was the 2008 version.
    The new version is totally different than the old one with new descriptors and questions. I doubt they would accept the old version if you sent that in now. You might have got away with it a month ago.

    Yes, it is ESA 03/11

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/@over50/documents/digitalasset/dg_195544.pdf
    I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.
  • NEH
    NEH Posts: 2,464 Forumite
    pinklady21 wrote: »
    So true - the way theses folks go about the 'testing' process is a nightmare, set up to make claimants fail!

    Beware the type of 'sideways question' too eg "when you watch television do you prefer Eastenders or Coronation Street?"
    No they are not having a cosy chat about last night's telly, they are in fact trying to establish how long you can sit still and concentrate for.

    CountryGuy posted a link to the ATOS training document a few posts back - it is 181 pages long, so took me a very long time to get through it, but quite illuminating in how they are told to go about their task.
    I think it is called WTA handbook or similar.
    Draconian stuff indeed.....

    Pinklady21

    Oh yes i remember that one (i actually got asked it as well) though hand on my heart we record nearly everything we want to watch so that if it is a Very bad day i can watch in stages or if i'm having trouble with brain fog or can'T concentrate we know we won't miss sections of it when i can't sit still as it were....
  • CountryGuy
    CountryGuy Posts: 714 Forumite
    I don't have a date for assessment (yet!...everyday I wonder if the dreaded envelope is going to arrive).

    But, when the time comes, I will not be filling in the form myself. I will be going to DIAL. Coordinating of paperwork et.c will be done by my amazing carer/mum.

    If ATOS assume that accurate completion of the forms means I am capable of work, they are wrong!

    I filled my form in myself a week before it was due in. I made a complete mess of it and explained why on the last page and apologised for the mess
    Just sold a lawnmower on Ebay.. That's the last time my neighbour will wake me up on a Saturday morning!
  • My husband is worried sick that he will be told he has to work.

    He'd been diabetic for 30 years (he's 40 now). He stopped work in september 2003 when he went on dialysis, he had his leg ampuated in april 2004, he has neuropathy in his hands and fingers so they are constantly numb, heart disease in one of the vessels and an enlarged heart, high blood pressure, diabetic retinopathy (registered partially sighted).
    He went on IB in 2003 sent sick notes in for 3 months and then got told he didn't need to send anymore, never had a medical or renewal so don't know when we are likely to be looked at for ESA
    Our other worry is he had a kidney and pancreas transplant on xmas eve, whilst this means he won't get any worse (hopefully) it won't cure what's already wrong with him except he doesn't go for dialysis 3 days a week anymore.

    He keeps having nightmares that he's in work and fallen and can't get up and wakes up yelling.
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  • System
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    My husband is worried sick that he will be told he has to work.

    He'd been diabetic for 30 years (he's 40 now). He stopped work in september 2003 when he went on dialysis, he had his leg ampuated in april 2004, he has neuropathy in his hands and fingers so they are constantly numb, heart disease in one of the vessels and an enlarged heart, high blood pressure, diabetic retinopathy (registered partially sighted).
    He went on IB in 2003 sent sick notes in for 3 months and then got told he didn't need to send anymore, never had a medical or renewal so don't know when we are likely to be looked at for ESA
    Our other worry is he had a kidney and pancreas transplant on xmas eve, whilst this means he won't get any worse (hopefully) it won't cure what's already wrong with him except he doesn't go for dialysis 3 days a week anymore.

    He keeps having nightmares that he's in work and fallen and can't get up and wakes up yelling.
    I can only hope you OH gets a fair assessment :( it does anger me when ATOS screw up and innocent people pay the price.
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  • sunnyone
    sunnyone Posts: 4,716 Forumite
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    My husband is worried sick that he will be told he has to work.

    He'd been diabetic for 30 years (he's 40 now). He stopped work in september 2003 when he went on dialysis, he had his leg ampuated in april 2004, he has neuropathy in his hands and fingers so they are constantly numb, heart disease in one of the vessels and an enlarged heart, high blood pressure, diabetic retinopathy (registered partially sighted).
    He went on IB in 2003 sent sick notes in for 3 months and then got told he didn't need to send anymore, never had a medical or renewal so don't know when we are likely to be looked at for ESA
    Our other worry is he had a kidney and pancreas transplant on xmas eve, whilst this means he won't get any worse (hopefully) it won't cure what's already wrong with him except he doesn't go for dialysis 3 days a week anymore.

    He keeps having nightmares that he's in work and fallen and can't get up and wakes up yelling.

    my husband is not diabetic (despite what his tests results say) but he has similar problems as yours has as in, kidney disease, heart disease, high blood pressure etc and thay are all co morbid and he did fail his first ESA medical and even now that he is in the support group he still get medical forms every six months which is very stressfull for him.

    The transplant will help your husband on the changeover but it shouldnt have to be dependant on that only but on all his health problems as a whole because they mean that he is to ill to work, full stop.

    If he does fail when his time comes please pm me and I will tell you about my husbands appeal.
  • diolch
    diolch Posts: 272 Forumite
    My husband is worried sick that he will be told he has to work.

    He'd been diabetic for 30 years (he's 40 now). He stopped work in september 2003 when he went on dialysis, he had his leg ampuated in april 2004, he has neuropathy in his hands and fingers so they are constantly numb, heart disease in one of the vessels and an enlarged heart, high blood pressure, diabetic retinopathy (registered partially sighted).
    He went on IB in 2003 sent sick notes in for 3 months and then got told he didn't need to send anymore, never had a medical or renewal so don't know when we are likely to be looked at for ESA
    Our other worry is he had a kidney and pancreas transplant on xmas eve, whilst this means he won't get any worse (hopefully) it won't cure what's already wrong with him except he doesn't go for dialysis 3 days a week anymore.

    He keeps having nightmares that he's in work and fallen and can't get up and wakes up yelling.

    God I wish they would give me a pancreas transplant!
    Mine's going down the path of Pancreatic Cancer
    Does your OH claim DLA?
    I can't get it for some reason.

    Wish you luck
  • flexrider
    flexrider Posts: 745 Forumite
    edited 26 April 2011 at 12:31AM
    diolch wrote: »
    God I wish they would give me a pancreas transplant!
    Mine's going down the path of Pancreatic Cancer
    Does your OH claim DLA?
    I can't get it for some reason.

    Wish you luck

    My daughter is Part sighted due to retina detachments in both eyes and Type one diabetic independant on insulin(novarapid) her mum claims for her Dla she is on low rate also she recived a letter claiming she can have servere disabilty if she can show her next date of optioligist...But she has not seen one for a while now she is part sighted...im worried now form your own problems if she will get it no offence to your case seems you got to be dead to get anything now off them...really worried over me own daughter now!
    "MSE Money saving challenges..8/12/13 3,500 saved so far :j" p.s if i been helpfully please leave me a thank you but seek official advice at all times from a pro
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