Help me find my lost children

tattycath

melbi_uk wrote: »

The school, will have a confidential form on file. That will contain information on who has legal responsibility, if there has been a court order to stop the Father having any contact, that would be on there too.

The mother might very well have just put her name down and left the father off, therefore, the school will not be able to disclose any information.

Try contacting Social Services.
Good luck.

If the NRP can prove they have PR to the child/children involved the school can give info. I have a friend and his ex didn't put his details down at the school but he had proof he had PR and they gave him details

pupsicola

If you were listed on the original schools paperwork as the father and had parental responsibility I am sure they have to advise you of the new school details. Or at least inform the new school and request that they contact you.

Unless there is a very good reason why the pwc is stopping you from having access to your kids then you should be able to find this information.

Have you tried looking on 192.com to try and locate your ex. It may cost you a little but you can generally find a persons address on their and sometimes their phone number.

Have you spoken with CAB and see what they advise.

pupsicola

tattycath wrote: »

melbi_uk wrote: »

The school, will have a confidential form on file. That will contain information on who has legal responsibility, if there has been a court order to stop the Father having any contact, that would be on there too.

The mother might very well have just put her name down and left the father off, therefore, the school will not be able to disclose any information.

Try contacting Social Services.
Good luck.

If the NRP can prove they have PR to the child/children involved the school can give info. I have a friend and his ex didn't put his details down at the school but he had proof he had PR and they gave him details

Thats right. If the father can prove he has PR the school can release information.

melbi_uk

tattycath wrote: »

melbi_uk wrote: »

The school, will have a confidential form on file. That will contain information on who has legal responsibility, if there has been a court order to stop the Father having any contact, that would be on there too.

The mother might very well have just put her name down and left the father off, therefore, the school will not be able to disclose any information.

Try contacting Social Services.
Good luck.

If the NRP can prove they have PR to the child/children involved the school can give info. I have a friend and his ex didn't put his details down at the school but he had proof he had PR and they gave him details

The Headteacher would probably investigate the parents right first.

I remember a good few years back our school got a phone call from the police saying ******* was on his way to the school looking for his child.

The father did arrive and long before the police arghhh!

The father in question had argued many a time that he had PR. It turned out he hadn't but did at one time, in fact the father used to collect the child sometimes.

Schools are even more strict today that way back then,

The problem is, the father could have at one time had PR but for whatever reason, no longer has.

If the child's CF does not state the father as having PR and someone shows up asking for information then the decision does not lie with the school, the school (SHOULD) be informing 1) the mother, 2) Social Services (as they will know if the child has a protection order on them)

melbi_uk

I'd contact SS, IF there has been any issues, they will know about it as it will be on their records.

If they have nothing, they just might start their own enquiry to make sure the children are not at risk with their mother, or her new partner etc.

tattycath

melbi_uk wrote: »

tattycath wrote: »

melbi_uk wrote: »

The school, will have a confidential form on file. That will contain information on who has legal responsibility, if there has been a court order to stop the Father having any contact, that would be on there too.

The mother might very well have just put her name down and left the father off, therefore, the school will not be able to disclose any information.

Try contacting Social Services.
Good luck.


The Headteacher would probably investigate the parents right first.

I remember a good few years back our school got a phone call from the police saying ******* was on his way to the school looking for his child.

The father did arrive and long before the police arghhh!

The father in question had argued many a time that he had PR. It turned out he hadn't but did at one time, in fact the father used to collect the child sometimes.

Schools are even more strict today that way back then,

The problem is, the father could have at one time had PR but for whatever reason, no longer has.

If the child's CF does not state the father as having PR and someone shows up asking for information then the decision does not lie with the school, the school (SHOULD) be informing 1) the mother, 2) Social Services (as they will know if the child has a protection order on them)

But surely the court would not issue a contact order if there was a protection order. If the mother is wrongfully hiding the children from the father then obviously if the school contacts the mother she'll say anything to stop them giving out info-even if it's wrong! If the father can prove he has PR then there is absolutely no reason to inform the mother so she can take preventative measures. If he can prove PR and even shows the school the court order that should be sufficient for them to give info-they are his kids after all!

AnxiousMum

IF I was with Social Services, going by the timeline given in the original post, that the OP has a 4 yr old daughter, and the 11 and 14 yr olds do not even know they have a sister - it is likely 4-5 years since any contact was made between the OP and his children. Given that the kids would've been 7 and 10 at the time - that's a long, long time to just start up regular contact again for the kids - and they will need to be eased into the relationship again. They will have questions too - where did you go (even though you went nowhere) and why has it taken 4-5 years to find us? So be prepared for some walls to be put up - particularly by the PWC as she will use this to her advantage if you do find her.

Marisco

This is outrageous!!!!! Surely if there is no violence, abuse etc, and it's just a bitter PWC messing about, the judge - especially if there is a court contact order - should make the CSA disclose the new address. Far too many PWC's get away with ignoring contact orders, with no comebacks. A "normal" father should not be scrabbling away trying to find out where his kids are. That cannot be right surely????

AnxiousMum

Just thought - I don't know if it's the case here - but......I know that in Canada we would take 'kidnapping' reports from parents who have been put in the very same position as yourself as long as: Your contact order stated specifics as to when you spent time with the kids. If it just said 'by agreement' or whatever, then that wasn't strong enough, but if it states 'on a friday from school pick up to Sunday afternoon at 1pm', and you were disallowed that, then legally there, it is kidnapping - particularly if they have just upped and left with no information to you.

mrsspendalot

My husband doesn't have contact with his daughter currently either. We haven't been told they've moved, so we think we know they are still living at the same address. His daughter was due to start school in September last year, but we had no idea which one. Hubby contacted the nearest school to the address we felt sure they were still living at, and told them that he was her was this girl's father, he had PR, and that he wanted to know if she was a pupil at that school, and if so, he wanted to be kept informed of her progress.

The school Head emailed him back and said that she could confirm that the child was a pupil at that school and that they would keep him informed with newsletters and reports etc. They said that they had informed the girl's mother that he had come forward and made contact with the school, and that they had agreed to keep him up to date. I think this was just so she was aware, rather than to have her grant permission for them to speak with him.

School applications ask for details of all people with PR. My kids school also asks for their birth certificates when you put their name down for an application pack so they can verify their age for school entry. If you are named on the birth certificate, that could then be easily checked.

Had we not had success at getting the school to confirm whether or not his daughter was attending there, we would have sent a letter to the local education board asking them to provide the information instead.

I have to say, the school have been very good and we get regular newsletters etc. as promised.