Cyclists are thick !

mikey72

Always stop and be a witmess for the car driver though, after phoning the ambulance for the cyclist.
I approve of Darwinism, but I think they should have a fighting chance.

JQ.

rugbyleague wrote: »

Horns should be banned........... What value do they add apart from upsetting people?

They work well when used correctly, unfortunately there's too many thick people out there.

anotherbaldrick

darich wrote: »

Either way - you should not have sounded your horn.

You were not involved in the potential accident and you sounding your horn would have done nothing to aid either the other driver or the cyclist.
All you succeeded in doing is distracting both drivers as they negotiated a roundabout.

Shoe Repairers!. If the other driver had not spotted the wayward cyclist fast approaching him from his 9 o'clock direction ( he was negotiating a tight turn around the mini-roundabout) my hoot caused him to look in my direction he saw the problem approaching and emergency stopped. If he would have otherwise who knows. This cyclist had a road race bike the full Lycra gear and she was shifting, did not slow one iota.

rugbyleague

JQ. wrote: »

They work well when used correctly, unfortunately there's too many thick people out there.

How exactly is a horn used well in this country they just create angry people....

vish16

I've said this before (not here) and I'll say it again: if cyclists are going to use the road then they MUST undergo some sort of compulsory highway code training and the right gear and helmet to wear etc. Motorcyclists tend know what they are doing due to their compulsory training before they can go on the road so why not cyclists?

Although, I've been lucky as a motorist to encounter cyclists who are good in the majority, but you get a few daredevils who insist on riding down the A45 past Brum airport wearing camouflage clothing and the speed limit is 60 mph, scary stuff!!!

Enterprise_1701C

I am a cyclist, I wear a helmet and a high visibility jacket. I was trained and I have trained children how to ride bikes.

I have seen good cyclists and I have seen bad cyclists. I have seen good drivers and I have seen bad drivers.

In my experience drivers do not like cyclists, and certainly a lot of the time they do not see them. I have had police cars open their doors on me when I am passing their (stationary) vehicle, I have had passengers throw drinks cans and cigarettes at me, I have been cut up by lorries (one time I had to jump off my bike and pull it over to avoid being knocked off my bike, never know how I did all that in a split second!!),and I have had my elbow knocked by a van driver. I have been informed by drivers that I should ride on the path, have been informed by pedestrians (who are walking on the cycle path) that I should be on the road. I have had high value sports car drivers pull over at lights specifically to stop me passing them.

Everyone is different, some cyclists are idiots and yes, and I do believe that training should be compulsory, but in my experience a lot of drivers are ignorant of the needs of cyclists and should be taught how to act around cyclists when learning to drive.

That said, cyclists like this do give us a bad name.

Oh, and please don't hoot at cyclists unless you are warning us of something, makes us jump out of our skin and concentration is vital if we are to survive on today's roads.

darich

anotherbaldrick wrote: »

Shoe Repairers!. If the other driver had not spotted the wayward cyclist fast approaching him from his 9 o'clock direction ( he was negotiating a tight turn around the mini-roundabout) my hoot caused him to look in my direction he saw the problem approaching and emergency stopped. If he would have otherwise who knows. This cyclist had a road race bike the full Lycra gear and she was shifting, did not slow one iota.

maybe the driver performed an emergency stop because you surprised them.....
maybe the cyclist is an advanced driver, better than you, judged the distance better and was in no danger...until you intervened with your horn
maybe she looked over her shoulder in a gestre of thanks since you clearly saved her life
maybe the car driver who performed the emergency stop shold give up his licence since he wasn't looking where he was going

there are lots of variables......but it could be argued that you're the worst of the three by attracting the attention of two other road users right at a time when they least need it.

Maybe the cyclist did/does have a death wish.....you should not have sounded your horn regardless of the situation ahead because you were not involved.

poontang

anotherbaldrick wrote: »

I was following a road cyclist, female, recreational sports not commuter and as we were coming up to a mini roundabout stayed behind, she was moving quite fast !

Jealous are you?

At the roundabout a car with priority was coming from the right.

On my way home today in my car, I came up to a mini-roundabout, and signalled right. A car driver on the left, female, recreational not commuter, came up to the roundabout and was moving quite fast.

Needless to say the cyclist just rode straight onto the roundabout.

Needless to say this car driver just carried straight on, even though I had priority. I hit my brakes to avoid hitting her and continued on my way.

(Previously on my journey I had a car cut across three lanes in front of me, forcing me to brake, a minicab driver attempting to cut me up when I was in the left hand lane and he was in the straight-ahead one, and a large MPV fail to stay within the lane markings while going round Hyde Park Corner, again forcing me to brake. Car drivers are idiots no doubt.)

I hit the horn, the car hit his brakes as the cyclist took a short cut over the centre of the MR. As she went she looked over her shoulder as if to say "what are you hooting me for ?"

Well indeed, what were you hooting at her for? The reality is car drivers force their way across the road constantly. Not giving way at roundabouts is very common, I'd soon lose track of the number of times slower traffic forced me to brake when I've got priority on the roundabout as a car driver.

The only difference is that the car driver asserts himself on the basis of a couple of tonnes of metal - 'I know you've got right of way, but what are you going to do? Smash into me?', whereas the cyclist says the same thing but without the protective metal around him.

The woman who forced me to brake on the roundabout just needed to touch the brake to slow and then onto the accelerator to go again, whereas your cyclist would have had to expend significant energy stopping and getting up to speed, after which you'd no doubt be whining that she was in your way.

As for going over the middle of the roundabout, The Stationery Office publication Cyclecraft says "If other vehicles commonly cross the centre then you should consider doing the same. Also, some mini-roundabouts require very tight turns to avoid the centre, which can be impracticle for a two-wheeler and hazardous if the surface is uneven, greasy or wet".

societys_child

rugbyleague wrote: »

Horns should be banned........... What value do they add apart from upsetting people?

Taxi drivers would go out of business:rotfl:

anotherbaldrick

poontang wrote: »

Well indeed, what were you hooting at her for? The reality is car drivers force their way across the road constantly. Not giving way at roundabouts is very common, I'd soon lose track of the number of times slower traffic forced me to brake when I've got priority on the roundabout as a car driver.



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. I have said several times I was not hooting her !. Try reading the posts.