Which is best Condenser Boiler to buy?

gas4you

Can't see why the new boiler couldn't go in the powermax position?

pigeonpie

The boiler's in a cupboard and the pipework and flue go up through the roof and aren't able to be inspected throughout. So it would be stupid to resite a new one in the same place as it doesn't conform to current safety standards (although is not dangerous). It makes the job so much more expensive, adds probably at least a couple of grand to it. BG's engineer suggested taking the 5 pipes necessary up to our mezzanine (above the cupboard), pulling up the mezz floor and laying it across, then down to the kitchen outside wall. He thinks easier and maybe cheaper than having to half destroy the kitchen to run it along. It's actually 7m from an outside wall.
I have a heating guy coming today to see what he thinks. I suppose I should have waited until May or June when quotes may be lower as they have so much less work?!

nissanmicraowner

Canucklehead wrote: »

Good afternoon: avoid Gworm. I'd recommend Vaillant, Viessmann and Remeha but a boiler is only as good as the standard of installation and the annual servicing.

If you decide to purchase the boiler (and don't forget the other materials/components as well) first find a RGI who is willing to fit a boiler purchased by you (the reasons have been recounted several times in this forum).

Take a look through the forum for details on other installations....standard of the specification and the cost of labour (more expensive in London) will vary widely.

South London covers a lot of territory...if you narrow it down a bit perhaps someone could give you a recommendation but getting a name from a source you trust is the best route.

HTH

Canucklehead

Hi,
I have had a Glow-worm Fuelsaver MKII boiler fitted in Sept 1987. It had an is-so (?15-50) pump replaced in 2003. It has been regularly serviced over the years until the last few years when my penny pinching ex decided that he would rather save all his wages and then leave me taking all our savings with him:( Anyway, now the boiler is causing problems - the central heating comes on for a while then switches off. The radiators aren't boiling hot like my mothers and the water is not boiling hot either. The boiler thermostat knob is at maximum 5, but does not seem to make any difference.
Now, my question is - Do I replace the boiler and buy a new Bosch, which is an expensive as I lack funds at the moment? But having said that I do want to move the boiler downstairs instead of it's present location which is the bedroom cupboard. OR Do I get my old boiler serviced, but will it be efficient and produce very hot radiators/water.
Thank you.

Canucklehead

Hi.

I would be looking at the pump to see if it's failing .
Not the boilers fault if the water isn't circulating round the system.
Get it serviced anyway as any other potential problems could be addressed before they mature into serious ones.

GSR.

nissanmicraowner

Canucklehead wrote: »

Hi.

I would be looking at the pump to see if it's failing .
Not the boilers fault if the water isn't circulating round the system.
Get it serviced anyway as any other potential problems could be addressed before they mature into serious ones.

GSR.

Thank you ever so much for your prompt response. I will try and get it serviced next week. I love your quote - I am one of those cut and paste person, whether it is artwork or solving household problems

Canucklehead

nissanmicraowner wrote: »

Thank you ever so much for your prompt response. I will try and get it serviced next week. I love your quote - I am one of those cut and paste person, whether it is artwork or solving household problems

Let us know how you get on....try to keep your existing boiler going for as long as it is economical...in the meantime, start putting away a bit each month for the inevitable day.

GSR

djscottmoore

WaveyDave wrote: »

The guy who services my boiler recently told me the best boiler you can get is veissmann. He said they have half the number of engineers of other companies because they simply don't need them! He's a Vaillant specialist, and said they've had alot of problems with them recently.

Veissmann do seem to be good but then again they are relatively unproven as combi boilers. Front runners are Vaillant and Worcester! I am a gas engineer myself and i prefer vaillant, they seem easier to fix and look smarter and have very good controls. Me and my boss always went off how many times we fixed certain boilers, and we fixed alot of Worcester's and not so many Vaillants, on the other hand, 10 years ago Vaillants were not as popular as they are today so you could say we fixed more because there were more of them. But whenever we went to fix a Vaillant the customer usually said "not had problems with that for 10-15 years!" Hope this helps you out!

djscottmoore

djscottmoore wrote: »

Veissmann do seem to be good but then again they are relatively unproven as combi boilers. Front runners are Vaillant and Worcester! I am a gas engineer myself and i prefer vaillant, they seem easier to fix and look smarter and have very good controls. Me and my boss always went off how many times we fixed certain boilers, and we fixed alot of Worcester's and not so many Vaillants, on the other hand, 10 years ago Vaillants were not as popular as they are today so you could say we fixed more because there were more of them. But whenever we went to fix a Vaillant the customer usually said "not had problems with that for 10-15 years!" Hope this helps you out!

A point to note, Worcester have a big fault with the way they 'condense' in the cold weather, when they condense they push a big volume at once, this seems to be easier for condense pipes to block(meaning your boiler will lockout aka not work), don't know how, just know this is a massive fault with worcesters and not so much others

heating-eng

djscottmoore wrote: »

Veissmann do seem to be good but then again they are relatively unproven as combi boilers. Front runners are Vaillant and Worcester! I am a gas engineer myself and i prefer vaillant, they seem easier to fix and look smarter and have very good controls. Me and my boss always went off how many times we fixed certain boilers, and we fixed alot of Worcester's and not so many Vaillants, on the other hand, 10 years ago Vaillants were not as popular as they are today so you could say we fixed more because there were more of them. But whenever we went to fix a Vaillant the customer usually said "not had problems with that for 10-15 years!" Hope this helps you out!

Vaillants are good boilers

heating-eng

djscottmoore wrote: »

A point to note, Worcester have a big fault with the way they 'condense' in the cold weather, when they condense they push a big volume at once, this seems to be easier for condense pipes to block(meaning your boiler will lockout aka not work), don't know how, just know this is a massive fault with worcesters and not so much others

I like the WB but you seem to have to build them yourself now adays , also they have a plastic jig and they don,t normally line up very well.