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advice re rossendales and council tax

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  • yes im still under the same council have been for all the accounts
  • RAS
    RAS Posts: 35,795 Forumite
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    OK

    The sticky bit here is that they have a levy for two accounts, so they could get arsy - use that to get in so they can levy a thrid time.

    I think you need to start with the two accounts on which you are paying £5. Get hold of a copy of the Council's complaints procedure and find out where your local councilor has his/her surgery. You want those accounts taken back in house on the grounds that the tiems levied are not sufficient to cover the debt and it should have been returned as unenforeaceable

    Then whack Jacobs with complaint about the double charging on those accounts and the attempts to over-charge on this account.

    Start by asking for a copy of the most recent levy.
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • thank you will get straight on to it , il be intrested to see what they come up with for the account at the moment since i havent seen a copy of anything of the sort , i already have my local councilers number and email address as have spoken to him before regarding another matter so that will be easy enough to get in touch with him
  • RAS
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    thank you will get straight on to it , il be intrested to see what they come up with for the account at the moment since i havent seen a copy of anything of the sort

    My personal guess is that if anythign tursns up it is going to list the same items as last year's, used as a "template."

    We had one rather hilarious case here when the levy was on a car parked in the OP's garden.

    Only problem was that the car not only belonged to a friend but had been scrapped several days before the levy was made!:D
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • It seems they use any means to get them selfs out of a hole, although im sure they didnt get around the car been scrapped lol , shall i email them and ask for a copy of my levy for the account in question
  • hallowitch
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    It seems they use any means to get them selfs out of a hole, although I'm sure they didnt get around the car been scrapped lol , shall i email them and ask for a copy of my levy for the account in question


    also ask them for for a breakdown of all payments made against all accounts to include any fees charged for making payments
    I am not an expert I am self taught i have no legal training any information I post is based on my own personal experience and information gained from other web sites


    If you are in any doubt please seek legal/expert advice help
  • hallowitch
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    Thank you for your email.

    Please find below the information as requested.

    Case Reference xxxxxx

    Visit made 22.09.10 at 2.41 pm by xxxxxxx, visit fee £24.50 applied
    Visit made 18.10.10 at 6.05pm by xxxxxxx, visit fee £18.00 applied.
    Visit made 01.03.11 at 7.24 am by xxxxxxxx, levy fee £30 applied and van fee £130.00 applied
    Visit made 04.03.11 at 12.02pm by xxxxxxx, waiting fee of £65 applied.
    legislation does not allow for a waiting fee nor does it allow for a van fee to charged the same day as a levy fee

    (this is the account I'm having problems with at the moment , the bailiff came on the 1st as stated yet he gave a week to come up with the payment and was told to ring him so dont understand why there was a visit on the 4th? also when he came on the 1st he just told me i had a week to pay , no levy and certainly didnt come in a van?)

    Case Reference xxxxxx

    Visit made 20.09.10 at 6.40 am by xxxxxxxxx, visit fee £24.50 applied
    Visit made 28.09.10 at 11.45 am by xxxxxxxx, visit fee £18.00 applied
    Visit made 26.10.10 at 12.57pm by xxxxxxxxxx, walking possession fee £12.00 applied and levy fee £39.00 applied

    Case Reference xxxxxx (these two accounts where done at the same time by the same person)

    Visit made 20.09.10 at 6.40 am by xxxxxxxx, visit fee £24.50 applied
    Visit made 28.09.10 at 11.45 am by xxxxxxxxx, visit fee £18.00 applied
    Visit made 26.10.10 at 12.57pm by xxxxxxx, walking possession fee £12.00 applied and levy fee £37.00 applied.
    they cant charge 2 1st&2nd visit fees on the same day
    they cant levy the same goods twice

    All of our fees are charged in accordance with the Council Tax Administration and Enforcement regulations and are clearly outlined on the instruction sheet that was left with the request for instalments form by the first call bailiff. We can therefore confirm that all fees on your account have been applied lawfully.

    Mr. xxxxxx was certificated at Burnley combined court on 13th February 2009
    Mr. xxxxxxx was certificated at Burnley combined court on 21st September 2009
    Mr. xxxxxxxx was certificated at Burnley combined court on 17th April 2009.

    wait untill you receive your breakdown of payments and then we will start with the letters of Formal complaint
    I am not an expert I am self taught i have no legal training any information I post is based on my own personal experience and information gained from other web sites


    If you are in any doubt please seek legal/expert advice help
  • Thank you , I have sent the request to them , I'm presuming I won't get a reply till next week now .
  • hallowitch
    hallowitch Posts: 1,286 Forumite
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    Thank you , I have sent the request to them , I'm presuming I won't get a reply till next week now .

    the breakdown of your account should have included payments made charges for making these payments (usually 80p per payment with Jacobs however regulations do not allow for this) amounts outstanding against each account

    send your council an e-mail and ask them to provide you with
    the date of each liability order
    the amount of each liability order
    the date/time each liability order was sent to Jacobs for collection
    A copy of all screenshots regarding these accounts to include any external records they hold from Jacobs
    I am not an expert I am self taught i have no legal training any information I post is based on my own personal experience and information gained from other web sites


    If you are in any doubt please seek legal/expert advice help
  • king100
    king100 Posts: 1,565 Forumite
    I would also be eclined to worite to the council asking under FOI for their collections procedure.


    I say this as my co8uncil states in in it collection procedure

    1st visit made within 5 to 7 days of LO.
    2nd Visit within the fiollowing 10 days.

    They also must advise the Revenues Manager where no progree has been made after 30 days.

    There is no aloowed charge for waiting time, thats a load of !!!!!!!!, but other have answered your questions.
    I all have learnt is from others on many sites.
    Seek legal help if unsure.
    Dont pay Private Parking tickets - they are mere invoices.

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