advice re rossendales and council tax

vanessa45192

Hi first time posting as I'm not sure what to do any more,
On tuesday I received a warrant\liability order with 24 hours notice of payment, I already have a arrangement with rossendales of which I am paying weekly as I got a few accounts passed to them when I was on low hours\maternity allowance which I didn't know I had to pay full council tax.
As I had already an agreement with then I thought I'd be able to do the same , how ever I was very wrong, the bailiff came to my house at 7am and as the other was a polite chap I didn't think about not letting him , he told me I owed 445 plus costs how ever the debt was only 208 , I informed him I couldn't pay in one go but he wouldn't accept anything else I even had a friend there at the time to which he even asked him to give me the money , he said I had until friday or he would come take my goods , I'm 22 and a single mum to a 5yr old and 11 month old which were at the time , I just burst into tears and he left.
Since I have been to my local CAB that also rang him up to ask to put a hold on action but he just refused straight away . I received a phone call from he an hour later and he asked if I had got any money together to which I replied the only money I had was my rent which had to be paid last week, he said he would accept 200 out of it and the rest had to be paid by the 14th of march (which coincidentally is the day before my debt appointment that she told him about). The 200 was paid over the phone on card details to which I later found out hed took the whole 445 he was rung and said it would be sorted out on mon which I will find out tomorrow I don't think it was an accident.
I now have a week to come up with 250 which I don't have and 200 short of my rent I just don't know what to do, sorry for the long post I'm just worrying constantly about it

GeorgeUK

If the debt was £208, why did it cost you £445?
Did they provide a breakdown of the costs?

When he came into your house, did you sign anything (a walking posession order)?
I'm not sure how this works for council tax, but you definately need more advice on your rights.

I would contact the bank and ask them to cancel the transaction - it was not authorised. If the bank refuse, tell them you will need the reason put in writing and to pass you through to their fraud department.

I would try to PM Herbie21 for advice as she knows alot about bailiffs - she is aslo connected to this site: http://www.bailiffadviceonline.co.uk/ who may be able to assist.

I would try reading through other threads that mention council tax and bailiffs.

vanessa45192

Thank you for your reply , the bank was contacted and they are only letting 200 go through but its still not been sorted, the bailiff was also contacted straight away and tried to get out of it untill my mum spoke to him then he all of a sudden remebered it was supposed to be 200, that is the first time I've seen him , I have not signed any forms at all off him, I asked him what the costs where and he said the court costs and levy to which I told him that I hadn't signed anything and he just told me I didn't need to

hallowitch

did the bailiff leave a notice of seizure of goods and inventory listing goods levied (if yes what goods did he list) for this debt and any previous debts
do you know how many liability orders the council have passed over to the bailiff for collection
do you know the amount of each liability order
do you know the date of each liability order
do you know the date they were passed of to the bailiff firm

what position are you in now regarding employment

GeorgeUK

I would also recommend posting on the legal beagles forum - they should be able to assist with what your rights are in relation to getting back any extra charges he has made that he should not have. It may be that he added charges for 1st visit, 2nd visit and cost of a van for removals all at the same time.
http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=76

vanessa45192

Hi I have 3 current cases wi rossendales two have been combined to one that I am paying off weekly this was arranged last year , this case at the moment was 208 and was at the same time last year as the others but he just posted the form where they list good on but there was nothing on it and I never signed it or returned it, I pay via online as I was paying weekly on my other account I just paid as and when I had any free money available as I had no arrangement set up via that account , he came to my house on tuesday I had no warning letter maybe this was because he posted the other through last year I'm not sure , I had the children with me when he came and I told him I was on income support but he just pushed it was full amount or my good to which I haven't signed anything

hallowitch

going to do a few letters for you later on tonight and we will see what fees have been charged to all accounts bailiffs never charge the correct fees especially when they are collecting more than one account

what council is it
two have been combined to one that I am paying off weekly this was arranged last year (did they enter your home and levy goods last year)

vanessa45192

Thankyou, yes on those accounts a levy was done although they listed the same items on both levy , to which the goods wouldn't even have met the amount, this account is a different address to the other two and a different bailiff I am dealing with at the moment , haven't seen the other one since I have been paying weekly as I do want to pay them off but he refused as soon as he came in.
Its wakefield council

hallowitch

Since I have been to my local CAB that also rang him up to ask to put a hold on action but he just refused straight away . I received a phone call from he an hour later and he asked if I had got any money together to which I replied the only money I had was my rent which had to be paid last week, he said he would accept 200 out of it and the rest had to be paid by the 14th of march (which coincidentally is the day before my debt appointment that she told him about). The 200 was paid over the phone on card details to which I later found out hed took the whole 445 he was rung and said it would be sorted out on mon which I will find out tomorrow I don't think it was an accident.

did the CAB inform him you were a single parent on benefits can you confirm what /if any paper work he left saying your debt was £445 confirm if this amount is broken down into outstanding debt fees
how & when did you find out he had taken £445
http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/CertificatedBailiffs/

have a look on this link and tell me if he is certificated to rossendales or/and PM me his name so i can check for myself

hallowitch

vanessa45192 wrote: »

Thankyou, yes on those accounts a levy was done although they listed the same items on both levy , to which the goods wouldn't even have met the amount, this account is a different address to the other two and a different bailiff I am dealing with at the moment , haven't seen the other one since I have been paying weekly as I do want to pay them off but he refused as soon as he came in.
Its wakefield council

Fantastic your due fees back on this thats a given

do you still have the levys can you list the goods and the
Amount of liability order
levy fee
walking possession fee
any other fee he has added

vanessa45192

the lady that rung him did inform i was on IS and that i was a single parent but he just said he couldnt hold off any action.
The letter i had of him said
Bailiff removal
magistrates liability order/distress warrant
445.87 (hand written)
payment due in full - 24 hours

I have no break down in fees etc as i have no levy or anything i have signed from him
Debt:203.07fees:206.50Paid:29.00Balance:380.57
This is what my online account says in relation to the bailiff i am dealing with at the moment.