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Ebay: Wake Up & Smell the Coffee! Protect Us From Fraudsters Now

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  • porto_bello
    porto_bello Posts: 1,828 Forumite
    Buyers can choose exactly who they buy from and can leave whatever feedback they like.

    Sellers can only leave feedback if it's positive and have no choice in who they sell to (unless a scammer is thoughtful enough to warn a seller that they are about to scammed and politely allows the seller to block them!)

    It's not hard to understand why ebay has become a buying scammer's utopia! :rotfl:
    "The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing.
    ...If you can fake that, you've got it made."
    Groucho Marx
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    edited 16 March 2011 at 1:49PM
    BigRedAnt wrote: »
    I like the way you seem to be switching the onus onto the sellers rather than the buyer.

    I said he was a vilgiante, and I thought you agreed tbh.
    I did say he wasn't the normal class of buyer, and I am sure he has an axe to grind. I certainly wouldn't have gone near any of the sellers who fit your description of them, and probably didn't start with a good reputation to destroy, and there's more than a few in that list.
    Others I would still use, and others have now have left ebay as well, so who knows.


    BigRedAnt wrote: »
    Do you think this person might be an opportunist, or just the unluckiest buyer in the world? Either way he has destroyed a lot of reputations......


    BigRedAnt wrote: »
    My guess is he is targetting those with the most to lose; low feedback, previous negatives, ..........................
  • porto_bello
    porto_bello Posts: 1,828 Forumite
    If you read this buyer's own feedback responses, he states that he has retrieved the payment by repeatedly raising claims again ... and again ... and again.

    Surely from this long trail, it's pretty clear that this is a scammer at work? And equally clear (and more worrying) that ebay and paypal have every intention of endorsing their claims allowing this scam to continue. :(

    Better block them ... just in case! ;)
    "The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing.
    ...If you can fake that, you've got it made."
    Groucho Marx
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    If you read this buyer's own feedback responses, he states that he has retrieved the payment by repeatedly raising claims again ... and again ... and again.

    Surely from this long trail, it's pretty clear that this is a scammer at work? And equally clear (and more worrying) that ebay and paypal have every intention of endorsing their claims allowing this scam to continue. :(

    Better block them ... just in case! ;)

    If you're selling secondhand car parts, and you have poor feedback, and you respond to items not received with
    "Item sent, proof of postage offered"
    yes.
  • BigRedAnt
    BigRedAnt Posts: 114 Forumite
    mikey72 wrote: »
    If you're selling secondhand car parts, and you have poor feedback, and you respond to items not received with
    "Item sent, proof of postage offered"
    yes.

    Sorry, if I was selling second-hand car parts I would block him immediately, and so would you. Not all those sellers had bad reps.
  • lovinituk
    lovinituk Posts: 5,711 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    mikey72 wrote: »
    I said he was a vilgiante
    I hardly think he is on a righteous crusade to rid ebay of all bad sellers!! He's a thief out to scam people for free goods regardless of their feedback history, plain and simple.
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    Maybe bad buyers and bad sellers attract each other.
    He still appears to have found a lot of sellers with feedback that would put me off them.
  • lovinituk
    lovinituk Posts: 5,711 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    mikey72 wrote: »
    Maybe bad buyers and bad sellers attract each other.
    He still appears to have found a lot of sellers with feedback that would put me off them.
    More like he has deliberately searched them out to target.
  • lovinituk
    lovinituk Posts: 5,711 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    More evidence of dodgy buyers on this very forum in the last couple of days...

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3115486

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3114330

    I'm sure there will someone along shortly to defend these 'buyers' or deny this ever happens!
  • porto_bello
    porto_bello Posts: 1,828 Forumite
    mikey72 wrote: »
    Maybe bad buyers and bad sellers attract each other.
    Bad buyers seek out the best sellers, since the best sellers have the best reputations which makes them the easiest targets to damage, hold to ransom, extract refunds from and gain free goods from.

    Bad sellers get bad reputations lose paypal claims and are seen by everyone as bad sellers, so within no time, no buyer will touch them - good or bad!

    In contrast, bad buyers like this can just go on being bad buyers, maintaining 100% feedback - not fair is it? :(
    "The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing.
    ...If you can fake that, you've got it made."
    Groucho Marx
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