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Single mother, 2 children, what can they get?

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  • lauzellen
    lauzellen Posts: 328 Forumite
    A male couldn't be tricked if he took it upon him self to put a condom on ;) Therefore yes he should provide for any child produced.
    Daughters Sealed Saving Pot - start them young :money: £90 :T
  • xxtokerxx
    xxtokerxx Posts: 66 Forumite
    Okay I did bring that topic up but that really is a whole different discussion!
  • melbi_uk
    melbi_uk Posts: 438 Forumite
    Awww lauzellen I wanted to play Jeremey Kyle lol

    Why can't men be more sensible and rather than leave contraception to the woman!

    Put something on the end of it if you don't want kids! Simples!
  • nottslass_2
    nottslass_2 Posts: 1,765 Forumite
    xxtokerxx wrote: »
    Jowo that was blatantly insulting and not needed, either you have had issues with men and babies - that's not our problem you've clearly voiced your opinion and been antagonistic through out this discussion which hasn't help answer the initial question. And as it goes I pay the money which equates to around £220-£250 depending on the month which is on-top of what she gets through benefits and judging by your figures from earlier a single mother can live if sensible with their money on benefits alone.

    I find it funny how the quality of their life, despite the fact they made the choice to have the child often against the partners agreement, sometimes even tricked (I am not talking personally here before you jump on another band wagon!) yet they expect to have a life with disposable cash - go out and work, work from home, work online, do the neighbours washing, do whatever. there are a lot of woman who do this every year and do not claim CSA and good for them. Just because you have a child you shouldn't expect financing from the father who has no say in the matter about the child being born in the first place.

    if as a female you choose to deceive a male / trick a male into getting pregnant then you should be prepared to be clever with your money, if that's the life you choose to opt for £200 per week is MORE than enough for a single mother to survive off. Sure it won't be a great living, but why should it? it's a damn sight better than those poor African ladies who get a handful of rice a day to feed their family.

    DX2 you continue to comment yet cannot be bothered to read the thread, what's the point in a discussion if you just come in voicing your opinions without understanding the situation in hand? Also, I initially wanted a simple answer, you come to a discussion board to get multiple views of opinion or experiences. In this instance I was interested in hearing from members what they were aware of - I am sure there are more benefits that haven't even been mentioned in this thread. So had you read even just the last post rather than just skimming it you too would have realised that is why I keep trying to justify myself to understand more, this has since gone off on a tangent and personally feel like I should at least voice my opinion.

    Its becoming clear from other members that they too share some of my opinions.



    Keep it in your bloody trousers then !!!! Then there wont be any risk that you'll get "tricked".
    It ain't rocket science !!!!
  • JC9297
    JC9297 Posts: 817 Forumite
    You mention your hypothetical future family several times, isn't the child you fathered family?
  • Jowo_2
    Jowo_2 Posts: 8,308 Forumite
    xxtokerxx wrote: »
    ...as it goes I pay the money which equates to around £220-£250 depending on the month .

    So is that £7.23 - £8.22 a day for one child or is that £3.61 - £4.11 per child if that's two?

    That will barely keep the no good slag in fags and gin.

    chugger.gif
  • DX2
    DX2 Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    xxtokerxx wrote: »
    DX2 you continue to comment yet cannot be bothered to read the thread, what's the point in a discussion if you just come in voicing your opinions without understanding the situation in hand?
    Because this board is for people seeking benefit help, help with their entitlement. Not for you to sit and whine about where you think your taxes should go, maybe it would help if you actually bothered to read the forum rules now and again.

    I'm sure however after informing MSE or a board guide this thread will be moved over to it's rightful place DT.
    *SIGH*
    :D
  • DX2
    DX2 Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    xxtokerxx wrote: »
    if as a female you choose to deceive a male / trick a male into getting pregnant then you should be prepared to be clever with your money, if that's the life you choose to opt for £200 per week is MORE than enough for a single mother to survive off. Sure it won't be a great living, but why should it? it's a damn sight better than those poor African ladies who get a handful of rice a day to feed their family.
    Someone had a one nighter and forgot his condoms.
    *SIGH*
    :D
  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,486 Forumite
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    nottslass wrote: »



    Keep it in your bloody trousers then !!!! Then there wont be any risk that you'll get "tricked".
    It ain't rocket science !!!
    !

    Or have a vasectomy and then you can turn the tables on anyone trying to "trick" you ;)
  • xxtokerxx
    xxtokerxx Posts: 66 Forumite
    LOL what ever, bet your all single mums sponging off the government - you don't know my situation stop trying to guess it.

    I know full well the forum rules as I always read before posting, if you actually read my first set of replies you'll actually understand that I was asking a valid question it was the replies from other members (including yourself) that caused this to go into a debate.

    I work hard, I pay my taxes and I pay the CSA, I never tried to avoid paying and frankly I am not trying to avoid it now - I was curious how a single mother can splash her cash all the time, credit would make sense but you can't keep borrowing for 3 years with no employment, not realistically any way.

    Besides I find it funny how your all extremely one sided in all this despite my fair remarks and comments.

    Maybe you should "put the boot on the other foot" for once and stop playing the whole desperate single mother needs everything she can get - move to africa and try asking the same questions from the government.

    If you can't afford to bring up a child then don't allow yourself to get pregnant in the first place, if you do, its your responsibility.

    I am happily paying my bills and maintenance and hope to never see the mother again, I don't consider it family and I don't have to justify my self to any of you, just merely expressing my opinions.

    This all started with me trying not to get in to an argument knowing it was a touchy subject but funnily enough I just don't care any more all leaching from the government causing the rest of the nation to suffer, go on, go out there and get a job, maybe 10 of you can get together and work a 4 day shift and on your day off 1 of you can be a carer for all the others? why wouldn't that work?

    Or the families where the children all seem to have multiple kids, why not move them into one large premises? I mean there living with the family, they have a baby and get there own place, why not move them in together and save the rest of us from having to pay for a new property!

    I mean what's this 20% of all new builds rule all about? what a load of tosh, half the people out there who buy a fancy new build have to walk past roughed up estates with god knows who living on there.

    This country is going to the toilet and if your one of those mothers that is taking more than she deserves I hope you feel bad about it, if you feel offended about my views I presume that indicates a guilty conscious cause if you consider that your doing it as its the only means you have you'll realise that your benefits are reduced because of the millions of people sponging from our government.

    Woman want equal rights, well so do men, and if your going to play games and take advantage then we deserve the right to protect ourselves whether that's in the early stages of pregnancy or just a state law I don't really care, but there are many other men in my position who have been duped.

    woman have many other forms of contraception than men, so why do the men always get blamed, takes two to tango! and besides as far as I was aware she had an implant, what was I suppose to do feel her arm every time things got "adult".

    Yeah right, common have some sense ladies.
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