Ban Kids On Flights

Bridesmaid83

screaming kid on a plane who is not doing it intentionally >>>>>>> obnoxious, overweight and/or drunk adult on a plane

PS: the whingers need to get over it. you're only on a plane for 12 - 14 hours tops and most of you are probably only on board for half/less of that time. suck it up and stop complaining. !!!!!!.

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Bridesmaid83 wrote: »

screaming kid on a plane who is not doing it intentionally >>>>>>> obnoxious, overweight and/or drunk adult on a plane

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That describes many of the bad parents.

lady1964

As irritating as crying babies are to those who aren't travelling with babies, at least those parents sounded like they were trying to do something to comfort them. I will try to drown out the sounds of crying babies, they don't understand why their ears hurt/they can't crawl around etc, and they must feel very bewildered.
It's the older children who are old enough to know better, the ones whose parents let them create havoc, kick backs of seats, make loads of noise and generally be really irritating who bother me. Those parents who do nothing to stop their children being a royal pain in the a**e to other passengers, who can often be found also trying to blank out the noise and disruption their kids are causing. The parents who continue to read, listen to music, drink and watch the film are the ones who bother me.
Lady1964

trotter09

Who was it who said hell is other people?

He was nearly right. Hell is other people's children.

SnowBelle_2

I think for some people to say 'suck it up' or just expect children to scream/badly behave and for other pasengers to have to put up with it is very rude.
I have paid good money for my ticket and do not wish to be someone else's babysitter.
Some passengers just don't have a clue why their child is distressed,sometimes for something simple as cabin pressure hurting their ears.
But when a child is just downright naughty and nothing is being done about it that is when people get annoyed.
Children should be taught right from wrong,but when you see some of the parents you know that will never happen.
Unfortunately a plane is not like a bus or train when you can usually move seats easily.
Like most people I have seen wonderfully behaved children on planes and I have also seen children way out of control.
But when you have parents who change their child's soiled nappy on the floor of the premium seating area on a flight from Orlando last winter in full view (and smell) of other passengers how can we ever expect some children to learn acceptable behaviour?

Hastobe_Katt

Murphy_The_Cat wrote: »

& then when you asked the FA to help you, what happened ?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to recall a thread where you were promoting a change in the current education system - because you felt it was failing boys who needed a more active / interactive style of education.

I'm hazarding a guess that kicking the back of the seat in front is the normal reaction of a disenfranchised and 'active' boy?

Maybe it's not the education system that needs adjusting but the parenting??

Murphy_The_Cat

Hastobe_Katt wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to recall a thread where you were promoting a change in the current education system - because you felt it was failing boys who needed a more active / interactive style of education.

snippety, snippety, snip

It was an interesting thread,wasn't it ? & it provoked quite a few differing opinions that lent towards a decent discussion.

I'm surprised that you didn't take the youngster by the scruff of the neck and frogmarch him to the Captain with your concerns (difficult at the best of times with regards to your conditions), but then again, using physical force against a small child for some people seems to come easily.

So what did the FA say when you asked him/her to help you ?

p.s. I love holidaying and flying with my children, it is one of the things that makes working so worthwhile, & I could never, ever, ever imagine considering, even for a moment "but then my idea of hell is a journey sitting next to my teenage kids" -could you ?

jackieblack

Murphy_The_Cat wrote: »

p.s. I love holidaying and flying with my children, it is one of the things that makes working so worthwhile, & I could never, ever, ever imagine considering, even for a moment "but then my idea of hell is a journey sitting next to my teenage kids" -could you ?

I totally agree Murphy, travelling with my DD and experiencing new places with her is one of the great joys of my life.
I can never understand when other parents say they can't wait for the school holidays to be over and their children back in school!

Tojo_Ralph

Having this week had a 12 hour flight complete with an unsettled baby a few rows back, I have to report as follows. The child was having a hard time settling and was crying, but not full blown as both parents were admirably trying to settle the child.

Needless to say i was able to remove myself completely from the situation with a few tunes and good NR headphones...... Or so I thought.

Whilst I could block out the child, I had a crimpolene wifey in front of me who repeatedly rose up on her haunches, looked backwards, rolled her eyes, tutted, sighed, and lowered herself back into the seat each time the child cried.

Being the diplomat that I am I spoke to the crimpolene wifey and enquirer if the child was bothering her, to which she replied "YES".

Thus I suggested she do one of two things. A) Do something about and speak to the FA or the parents or Stay seated, wind her neck in, !!!!!! and stop bugging my happiness...... She quite remarkable chose option .

Needless to say I was a tad more diplomatic than reported, but not a great deal.

Hastobe_Katt

Murphy_The_Cat wrote: »

It was an interesting thread,wasn't it ? & it provoked quite a few differing opinions that lent towards a decent discussion.

I'm surprised that you didn't take the youngster by the scruff of the neck and frogmarch him to the Captain with your concerns (difficult at the best of times with regards to your conditions), but then again, using physical force against a small child for some people seems to come easily.

So what did the FA say when you asked him/her to help you ?

p.s. I love holidaying and flying with my children, it is one of the things that makes working so worthwhile, & I could never, ever, ever imagine considering, even for a moment "but then my idea of hell is a journey sitting next to my teenage kids" -could you ?

I think you took the comment slightly out of context Murphy. The thread you quoted from was about paying for priority boarding. My sons (age 17 and 19) quite reasonably prefer to sit away from their parents and, likewise, I'm quite happy to sit away from them. I certainly wouldn't dream of paying a premium to sit together - especially as both I and my husband always sleep on plane journeys (except when some little pain in the a55 is kicking me in the back).

With regard to the child in the supermarket, I simply told him to get of the trolleys and to come with me. He was so shocked that someone had told him off he just came with me (and walked at my pace - despite the crutches!)

As I have said and keep saying - it's the parents who are usually to blame for disruptive kids...and it's usually the parents that cause most trouble when their out of control child is pulled up about his behaviour.

As an aside - you really, really don't get it do you, Murphy?? If a child has kicked the seat repeatedly and been ignored by parents, then after the parents have been asked and responded with expletives...it is still not a parenting issue but a lack of perseverance on the part of the the person being kicked for not escalating this to the cabin staff? I really hope I never get to share a flight with you and your children! Maybe this is why you like to sit next to your kids...because you know that all the surrounding seats will empty within minutes of the fasten seat belts sign being switched off!

Edit - I would just add that a colleague, who has lived in Switzerland for the last six years, told of coming back to the UK earlier this year and seeing a child repeatedly hitting an animal with a stick. He went over to chastise the child and was immediately confronted by the child's parents 'effing and blinding' and telling him to leave their kid alone and mind his own business. His reaction - 'welcome back to the UK'. In Switzerland he would have been thanked by the child's parents.