Constructive Advice Regarding Benefits Required Please

thorsoak

"The fact that I have not posted the links, leads me to believe that you are probably unemployed yourself, or have been hard done by, by the DWP yourself in the past (I am probably wrong), but unfortunately due to being screwed over with my benefits and seeing this coming I am more prepared then most (and is only due to the threats or bullyish tactics used ilegally by JC+ or Back to work Companies that have left me feeling that way). Needless to say, if every negative comment I responded or keep responding to until I get an answer to THE ISSUE I HAVE REGARDING MONEY BEING STOPPED, as apart from the few genuine constructive posts that have been made, that if this was a panel of decision makers from the DWP, then if a did not win, I would still take it further. "

Give the boy a banana!!! Yes - your surmise is incorrect - I have never ever failed to get a job for which I have applied - whether it was as a domestic cleaning operating theatres or PA in one of the top City organisations. Horses for courses - one trims one's CV to match the job.

I have - for the moment - retired. But if at some time in the future I decide that I want to rejoin the work force, I have no doubt that I will get whichever job I go for.

The difference between you and I, Sonny Boy, is that I am a pragmatist! You, sadly, are so full of your own importance that you cannot see anything under your nose - but other people can see right through you - and that's why you are still unemployed and unemployable.

thebadman

Are all you lot retards? or just stupid? have you rubbish lives? so you come on here and put this guy down. read before you post idiots.

he asked for constructive criticism not a group of idiots telling him your rubbish opinions.

i been unemployed for 12 years. how do you lot feel about that. now you know start on me.

now to the poster the best thing you can do is search on Google for

Jobseeker's Allowance Regulations 1996

Jobseekers Act 1995

!appeal don't let this idiots put you off appeal now. no excuse APPEAL NOW

search for good courses. in those regulations and reasons which will be accepted by appeal. i my self have defended 3 times and won, they are trying to send me to flexible new deal, which i have already been last year all it was is a year of telling you they will Make me homeless if i don't do as they say and work for free for a month. And gain nothing from the experience. waste of time waste of money demoralizing staff who treat as if they where slave masters, that should be a choice weather to go on that scheme its purely designed to course harm and distress nothing more. but the company makes £2600 each client sent to flexible new deal plus in job bonuses of around each client £1200. so it pays to threaten you into employment which will not benefit you. you might as well do crime to get the bills paid.



ill will make clear no point sitting there telling them how you feel or personal information. you have to base your reasons on law. they will not take nothing into consideration. only it it is written with in guidance and law or regulation what ever suits your understanding

just put www. in front on these below or search google


Jobseeker's Allowance Regulations 1996

Jobseekers Act 1995


legislation gov uk/ukpga/1995/18/contents

legislation gov uk/uksi/1996/207/contents/made

EXAMPLE: take parts of this put it in your own words or even quote regulation to them.

Steps to be taken by persons actively seeking employment

18.—(1) For the purposes of section 7(1) (actively seeking employment) a person shall be expected to have to take more than one step on one occasion in any week unless taking one step on one occasion is all that it is reasonable for that person to do in that week.

(2) Steps which it is reasonable for a person to be expected to have to take in any week include—

(a)oral or written applications (or both) for employment made to persons–

(i)who have advertised the availability of employment; or

(ii)who appear to be in a position to offer employment;

(b)seeking information on the availability of employment from–

(i)advertisements;

(ii)persons who have placed advertisements which indicate the availability of employment;

(iii)employment agencies and employment businesses;

(iv)employers;


they tell you in the job center you have to take at least 4 to 5 actions a week to be actively seeking nonsense. look at the regulation and point it out to them.

so what if you have been unemployed for years its neither here or there, if there is regulation stating a time limit, you should be of benefit, i have not seen or heard of that in law or regulation.



EXAMPLE: i didn't go flexible new deal for a year, the job center ask why, i say its non of your business, how ever i had good course not to, they send it to a decision maker, you simply ask for the dates when you was supposed to be there and say you had court duty, or health, stress, had to take care of the kids.

Good Cause for the purposes of section 19(5)(a) and (6)(c) and (d)





good luck what ever happens, take law and make it your own.

if you lot have anything to say. about me. I DON'T GIVE A :money:, what you have to say. help people do not put them down this is one of the worse forums ever. for people looking for help

Gleeful

thebadman wrote: »

Are all you lot retards? or just stupid? have you rubbish lives? so you come on here and put this guy down. read before you post idiots.

he asked for constructive criticism not a group of idiots telling him your rubbish opinions.

i been unemployed for 12 years. how do you lot feel about that. now you know start on me.

now to the poster the best thing you can do is search on Google for

Jobseeker's Allowance Regulations 1996

Jobseekers Act 1995

!appeal don't let this idiots put you off appeal now. no excuse APPEAL NOW

search for good courses. in those regulations and reasons which will be accepted by appeal. i my self have defended 3 times and won, they are trying to send me to flexible new deal, which i have already been last year all it was is a year of telling you they will Make me homeless if i don't do as they say and work for free for a month. And gain nothing from the experience. waste of time waste of money demoralizing staff who treat as if they where slave masters, that should be a choice weather to go on that scheme its purely designed to course harm and distress nothing more. but the company makes £2600 each client sent to flexible new deal plus in job bonuses of around each client £1200. so it pays to threaten you into employment which will not benefit you. you might as well do crime to get the bills paid.



ill will make clear no point sitting there telling them how you feel or personal information. you have to base your reasons on law. they will not take nothing into consideration. only it it is written with in guidance and law or regulation what ever suits your understanding

just put www. in front on these below or search google


Jobseeker's Allowance Regulations 1996

Jobseekers Act 1995


legislation gov uk/ukpga/1995/18/contents

legislation gov uk/uksi/1996/207/contents/made

EXAMPLE: take parts of this put it in your own words or even quote regulation to them.

Steps to be taken by persons actively seeking employment

18.—(1) For the purposes of section 7(1) (actively seeking employment) a person shall be expected to have to take more than one step on one occasion in any week unless taking one step on one occasion is all that it is reasonable for that person to do in that week.

(2) Steps which it is reasonable for a person to be expected to have to take in any week include—

(a)oral or written applications (or both) for employment made to persons–

(i)who have advertised the availability of employment; or

(ii)who appear to be in a position to offer employment;

(b)seeking information on the availability of employment from–

(i)advertisements;

(ii)persons who have placed advertisements which indicate the availability of employment;

(iii)employment agencies and employment businesses;

(iv)employers;


they tell you in the job center you have to take at least 4 to 5 actions a week to be actively seeking nonsense. look at the regulation and point it out to them.

so what if you have been unemployed for years its neither here or there, if there is regulation stating a time limit, you should be of benefit, i have not seen or heard of that in law or regulation.



EXAMPLE: i didn't go flexible new deal for a year, the job center ask why, i say its non of your business, how ever i had good course not to, they send it to a decision maker, you simply ask for the dates when you was supposed to be there and say you had court duty, or health, stress, had to take care of the kids.

Good Cause for the purposes of section 19(5)(a) and (6)(c) and (d)





good luck what ever happens, take law and make it your own.

if you lot have anything to say. about me. I DON'T GIVE A :money:, what you have to say. help people do not put them down this is one of the worse forums ever. for people looking for help

Sorry Badman, missed your AE post because it was mostly !!!!!!!!.

Translate for me?

mixtrixx

Now here is some points to take into consideration -

1. It has eventually come to the point in which someone in my position felt the need to speak out in my defense after seeing that although I was successfully answering positive and negative comments without backing down, but to have to endlessly continue to answer repetitive questions time and time again, is nothing more then what I have already experienced from the Job Centre & 3rd Party Back to Work Training providers which just suggests to me that those have not had the displeasure of being in such a situation that they were or are willing to fight their way out of.

2. It's quite unfortunate as to how this topic has led someone who quite clearly has experienced the same issues as myself been wound up to the extent in which he expressed himself in the way that he did. Yet people will no doubt reply with negativity to his comments, which has left him so angered to the point of appearing as someone who is probably more then willing to work, but not being given the opportunity to do so, due to either restrictions or barriers that may prevent him in doing so.

3. The fact that Badman's comments received a Thank you, goes to clarify my comment in which not everyone is willing to speak openly on such a subject, whether it be to fear of benefits being stopped, or feel they would be on a losing battle had they of decided to post a similar thread such as this one.

4. With no disrespect to Badman, and before any one wishes to make sarcastic comments on his spelling in the comment he made, then for this person to speak out like he has, who would require attention in order to maximize his chances of finding work which he could be more then capable of doing had it not been down to not getting the full support and help needed to which he is obviously fighting a disadvantage which would probably restrict his chances of finding work he could probably do better then any other individual on an employers shortlist when seeking employee's.

There have been several times in which I felt like expressing myself as much as what Badman did, but I refrained from doing so, as at the time it would only allow someone the opportunity to use that as another reason to state that I had such an attitude in which would be seen as a reason as to why I have been out of work as long as I had.

If it's the only successful thing I get out of this thread, it will be the fact that my arguments have caused others in the same situation to actually speak out and make themselves heard, rather then sit back letting people from JC+ offices or Back to work Training providers, fill your brains with what they want you to believe over what the law actually states you have to do when it comes to requirements and terms & conditions with Jobseeking.

mixtrixx

Gleeful wrote: »

Sorry Badman, missed your AE post because it was mostly !!!!!!!!.

Translate for me?

I think he did a pretty good job in explaining the point he was making.

The fact he has a learning difficulty has obviously been overlooked by those who are employed and paid ridiculous wages for the help and support they fail to give, yet as long as there is a need for such places, such inexperienced staff will always be on hand to help those who are less time consuming then those that really do make up the 1% of overlooked individuals that actually need it.

and all that purely to achieve targets which are the way work output is monitored, from someone who is temping whilst they find better employment, suffice to say they do not give a toss as to who's lives they mess up in the process, as long as their targets are reached, it's a case of looking after number one in their eyes.

I don't think references to the Jobseekers Act, actually need translating, it's all there in black and white, the fact that people fail to use it when needed only allows the Job Centre to continue to feed you such !!!!!.

It's basically a test, a test to see how much you know, if it appears that you will take anything they say as gospel, they will continue to push and punish you until you either lose your benefits, or get to the stage in which your endlessly searching for information to make them aware that your no longer going to be subject to such bullying and threatening tactics if they can see they can continue to endlessly get away with it unquestioned.

mixtrixx

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Oh, get over yourself.

Some of us have earned the right to spend hours posting on here and would rather spend that time helping someone who actually needs it. We would also rather our taxes went to helping someone who actually deserves help.

Take control of your own destiny and don't wait for others to do things for you.

I can't actually believe that you posted :

Oh, get over yourself.

Some of us have earned the right to spend hours posting on here and would rather spend that time helping someone who actually needs it. We would also rather our taxes went to helping someone who actually deserves help.

Well, at least you finally showed your true colours, you will never win with me when it comes to sarcasm.
To say that you would "Rather pay taxes to help others that need it" implies to me that from hanging around a topic on benefits, means that your just itching to run unemployed people down.

If that's the case, then why not go !!!! off somewhere else such as the freebie money saving part of the site, if it's not or never been your actual intention to provide help in a section dedicated to people with issues regarding benefits?

All you have just clarified yourself to be, is someone that has total disregard to those claiming benefits which you as a tax payer has to make, so it's justifiable cause to insult someone less fortunate then themselves, let's hope you never have to argue the toss if faced with the same situation.

I tell you what, if it's that much of a concern based on how much tax you pay from your wages, Work out where the main areas to where the tax you pay end up going to, then divide the rest by the number of unemployed people in the UK then come back to me with an address as to where I can send you the 10p a week if it's that much of a loss out of your earnings. I could send you a 10p voucher to spend any where you like if preferred.

Oldernotwiser

thebadman wrote: »

Are all you lot retards? or just stupid? have you rubbish lives? so you come on here and put this guy down. read before you post idiots.

he asked for constructive criticism not a group of idiots telling him your rubbish opinions.

i been unemployed for 12 years. how do you lot feel about that. now you know start on me.

now to the poster the best thing you can do is search on Google for

Jobseeker's Allowance Regulations 1996

Jobseekers Act 1995

!appeal don't let this idiots put you off appeal now. no excuse APPEAL NOW

search for good courses. in those regulations and reasons which will be accepted by appeal. i my self have defended 3 times and won, they are trying to send me to flexible new deal, which i have already been last year all it was is a year of telling you they will Make me homeless if i don't do as they say and work for free for a month. And gain nothing from the experience. waste of time waste of money demoralizing staff who treat as if they where slave masters, that should be a choice weather to go on that scheme its purely designed to course harm and distress nothing more. but the company makes £2600 each client sent to flexible new deal plus in job bonuses of around each client £1200. so it pays to threaten you into employment which will not benefit you. you might as well do crime to get the bills paid.



ill will make clear no point sitting there telling them how you feel or personal information. you have to base your reasons on law. they will not take nothing into consideration. only it it is written with in guidance and law or regulation what ever suits your understanding

just put www. in front on these below or search google


Jobseeker's Allowance Regulations 1996

Jobseekers Act 1995


legislation gov uk/ukpga/1995/18/contents

legislation gov uk/uksi/1996/207/contents/made

EXAMPLE: take parts of this put it in your own words or even quote regulation to them.

Steps to be taken by persons actively seeking employment

18.—(1) For the purposes of section 7(1) (actively seeking employment) a person shall be expected to have to take more than one step on one occasion in any week unless taking one step on one occasion is all that it is reasonable for that person to do in that week.

(2) Steps which it is reasonable for a person to be expected to have to take in any week include—

(a)oral or written applications (or both) for employment made to persons–

(i)who have advertised the availability of employment; or

(ii)who appear to be in a position to offer employment;

(b)seeking information on the availability of employment from–

(i)advertisements;

(ii)persons who have placed advertisements which indicate the availability of employment;

(iii)employment agencies and employment businesses;

(iv)employers;


they tell you in the job center you have to take at least 4 to 5 actions a week to be actively seeking nonsense. look at the regulation and point it out to them.

so what if you have been unemployed for years its neither here or there, if there is regulation stating a time limit, you should be of benefit, i have not seen or heard of that in law or regulation.



EXAMPLE: i didn't go flexible new deal for a year, the job center ask why, i say its non of your business, how ever i had good course not to, they send it to a decision maker, you simply ask for the dates when you was supposed to be there and say you had court duty, or health, stress, had to take care of the kids.

Good Cause for the purposes of section 19(5)(a) and (6)(c) and (d)





good luck what ever happens, take law and make it your own.

if you lot have anything to say. about me. I DON'T GIVE A :money:, what you have to say. help people do not put them down this is one of the worse forums ever. for people looking for help

Ooh look - a new member just registered in time to support and be thanked by the OP . What a co-incidence - who would have believed it possible!;):rotfl:

Oldernotwiser

mixtrixx wrote: »

I can't actually believe that you posted :

Oh, get over yourself.

Some of us have earned the right to spend hours posting on here and would rather spend that time helping someone who actually needs it. We would also rather our taxes went to helping someone who actually deserves help.

Well, at least you finally showed your true colours, you will never win with me when it comes to sarcasm.
To say that you would "Rather pay taxes to help others that need it" implies to me that from hanging around a topic on benefits, means that your just itching to run unemployed people down.

If that's the case, then why not go !!!! off somewhere else such as the freebie money saving part of the site, if it's not or never been your actual intention to provide help in a section dedicated to people with issues regarding benefits?

All you have just clarified yourself to be, is someone that has total disregard to those claiming benefits which you as a tax payer has to make, so it's justifiable cause to insult someone less fortunate then themselves, let's hope you never have to argue the toss if faced with the same situation.

I tell you what, if it's that much of a concern based on how much tax you pay from your wages, Work out where the main areas to where the tax you pay end up going to, then divide the rest by the number of unemployed people in the UK then come back to me with an address as to where I can send you the 10p a week if it's that much of a loss out of your earnings. I could send you a 10p voucher to spend any where you like if preferred.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

anxious_mum

Blimey, I just realised I will never get back the 20 minutes or so that it took me to read this post. Boring doesn't even begin to describe it. And it is could HAVE, should HAVE, would HAVE, not could OF blah blah blah.....Get a damn job if you're so qualified!

mixtrixx

viktory wrote: »

It is also absolutely not the case! You are so not witty!

Oh well, your beginning to sound quite boring now, having to re quote what I say, just because it's irrelevant to the post STILL.

The reason this will never get to me is purely because I done enough to silence every possible negative and biased individual single handedly without any such reasonable comment to throw back at me.

What really is ironic about all of this, is that you are in no way any better then me!

Why?

I'm here to save money by getting back what the law says I'm legally entitled to live on each week, where due to 1 day signing late, I lose 5 days.

Your here to save money, needless to say you would probably hold up traffic in the middle of the day to pick 10p up if you saw it on the floor.

It's people like you that must linger around the non money making side of the site in between new offers being posted on the Money Saving side. I would even go as far to say that your Windows desktop screensaver is the MSE Homepage.

Then again, I have nothing to lose now that my money is stopped, so when I do sign on next week and they ask what I have been doing, it will probably be met with nothing more then a response of "Sweet F.A".
Let's see the !!!!!! stop money they aint paying me anyway.

Come to think about it I may just !!!! everyone off, sell the flat take the £15,000 equity after paying the remaining mortgage off.
Search for a nice £7,000 Hoilday for a month, and possibly a few vouchers from the site to get a better discount for my money, come back and sign on again I'm sure the all personal data will be removed from file before I come back, so there will be no excuse to deny me Jobseekers allowance.

Moral - it's great to run someone down when they have the money to spend it on whatever they choose and run down those less fortunate on the way. Not so fun when that unfortunate person you ran down so much cashes in sooner or later and rubs salt into the wounds, not nice is it?