Constructive Advice Regarding Benefits Required Please

mixtrixx

busy_mom wrote: »

Jobseekers allowance is not an alternative to a job, it is a last resort. Why should the state support you because you got the sack from your last job and think you are above everybody else and a normal job.

Yes you should start to wake up and smell the coffee because you will soon be loosing more of your JSA if you don't get off your backside and get a job, any job don't care what you are qualified to do. Try McDonald's always work at one of them.

This government expect people to help themselves, there is no magic wand or bottomless cash tin to get you into work or pay the training that you so desperately expect.

You really need to realise exactly what you benefit can be sanctioned for. You might be in for a shock, you can loose a weeks benefit for being late, yes 10 mins late and you loose a week!

Have you ever thought why you might be kept waiting a few minutes? Perhaps the person in front of you is also moaning and groaning thinking the world owes them a living and taking longer than the 3 or 5 mins allocated to them. They too might be questioned because they are late or not taken adequate steps to seek employment. Do you moan in the supermarket or the post office if there is a queue in front of you?

In a nut shell get a job,any job, sign off and give the poor JCP staff in your local office a break!

Actually as contradictory I am going to be when referring to actually reading my posts, then forgive me for saying I only saw
"Sacked". I was "Unfairly Dismissed" this was prooved, hence claiming benefits straight away.

OK, let's talk about something totally irelevant as it seems people cant win the battle by keeping to my original topic STILL after having been viewed over 2,300 times, and I've basically sat here and took you all on, and over what?

Your moaning about paying for my benefits? Indivually Tax you contribute would not even begin to make up the days payment I should of been stopped, let alone cover 5 days, to which 4 of them I wasnt paid a penny, yet they also failed to mention how I would not have to seek work for allowances on days I dont get allowances. So before you think your gonna get anywhere with me, firstly read the full story, rather then look nothing more stupid over those wanting to argue me on this. I'm sure if you were employed and your comments were viewed, like so many like to point out about me, then none of you would be working as it's nothing no different from why you alot hang around a freebie site, if it's so easy to make ends meet on a full time wage, whiich can also be save you alot of money in return.

I guess that just makes retailers look at customers who only use them for cheap discounted deals who only use them to pick at left over bones is no different as to how you all look at people like me, who has actually not only been screwed out of a job, but screwed by the government, but unless it's not you that's affected it dont matter one bit. Suffice to say, I will take anyone on who wants to continue to run me down on stuff that is totally off topic and had not been read in the first place. I guess you never filled in an application form in CAPTIALS due to not reading the information at hand before hand.

WelshNic

Sadly people get screwed over by employers on a daily basis, you're not the first. What did ACAS have to say about what happened?

You do need to move on and take some responsibility for yourself though. You messed up your claim, deal with it.

allen35

Mistakes are made and unfortunately yes we have to take responsibility but the frustration shines through all too often when people are dealing with JCP staff, i think Gilbert has made it plain and simple on what needs to be done. It will be dificult to overturn a decision unless there is specific evidence to back up your reasons.

Good luck

mixtrixx

anxious_mum wrote: »

You're barking up the wrong tree there matey, I have never claimed anything from the state since the day I was old enough to work :j Plus, at 17 and 15 my boys wouldn't appreciate nappies these days! I've never been out of work for 5 years either.

Plus, I'm mum, not mom, I'm not american.

Ok, I Apologize I got something wrong. Seeing as you answered truthfully and not acted with such outrage to which others have cracked under as they know they are going round in circles missing the entire point of the post, is the reason why is why I respect your response, and forgive me if I have not had to be subject to such negativity where people know aswell as I do, if it was not for the fact that people will go on believing that benefits will be at risk if they are seen to cause a problem is nothing more then ridiculous and just scaremongering tactics after putting jobsseekers through nothing more then stress, and subject you to tests as to how clued up on you are on your rights with regards to benefits. I just come off stage 4 FND taking on that for 1 year without being sanctioned.

It's not that I made a big deal there as what I could of really done. But by keeping quiet, and responding back to each time I knew these people were abusing their positions in threats of sanctions, I retaliated I retaliated with comments when going to the "Fortnightly Meaningful Contract" to see my "Personal Adviser" who was a "Temp" (her own admission) and was not even trained up to use the benefits calculator, to work out how many hours a week and what pay I could afford to take with Job Vacancies slowly make her aware that I aint as thick as I appear, threats continued at first for a few months, so I started getting a bit louder not caring who heard me, as she began to realize barriers I had and still have to get back into work, were not going to be that extra client on her already low shortlist of subjects to get into work in order to achieve her K.P.I. so seeing that stress her out, I then raised the bar a little, began to make people aware of things that they were forced to do, be nothing more then !!!!! dribbled from the mouth of a Temp, who STILL has an account on Facebook looking smashed out her face on her Profile Pic. the fact she is (if you can call it (working) does not make any difference into the fact that the block such sites which is becoming a major source of job search through social networking.

Any how to cut a long story less longer, I was never put into a placement for the 4 weeks which were to of been done with 12 months, as she felt it best to make me job search first, and leave getting job experience last (seems about as logical as to how DWP "Decision Makers" based their "unbiased" & "impartial" decisons were made.
When push comes to shove, and Benefits I has done everything I was asked to do, as well as be put under the stress to be forced to the point of having to get this clued up on the DWP, then, after she had been off sick about 3 weeks before I came off Stage 4, and when I asked about if I could pick my own place to go into, she turned round to say, there aint enough time to do it now, as you HAVE to do 4 weeks as stated. Then as her final attempt to blackmail me she came out with the ultimate scare tactic in which she implied that she had already sent 2 Sanctions to my Job Centre for failing to do enough to find work LOL ME, She was off sick more days I was, yet the 2 Strikes being sick a year did not stop her wages! So as soon as she said that I just called her bluff by saying, "Do you realize you were to of informed me verbally or by letter before you sent these sanctions to the Job Centre" Immediately she stumbled, but as all previous Retail Sales Reps do, they quickly recover. Unfortunately not quick enough to suggest to me that she was lying. So when she continued to act on whar eventually turned out to be nothing more then lies, to have the threat of someone like that to not even care one bit about my well being, let alone have a "Personal Adviser" job title, freaked abit, when I told her to say hi to her bloke, and if they were still living at blah blah street.

Information easy to find through a combination of Facebook and Deep Web Search Engines. Don't get me wrong, I had no intentions as to go any further then as to show her, what it feels like with threats that hold very little value whatsoever. That last week was probably the nicest person you could never of imagined to be for 12 long months.

All for what? Just to meet a K.P.I where it was in a scenario where she was under more pressure to perform due to changes meaning being in an uncrowded smelly building where the only fresh air coming in, was the smell of cannabis being sold out on the car park day in day out.

Yet, I can see why they feel the need to get off their heads if they were subject to that. You dont expect a hoodie to search on issues into what is lawfully right & wrong at the training place they are at, let alone still do the same 12 months and not once get bollocked about the dealing on the car park every day without fail, it was as if it was a part of their Jobseekers agreement in doing so. The only difference being they got paid and not penalized to do it, and furthermore, if anyone is found to be Drunk or Stoned on premises such as JC+ or Back To Work Providers, they are sent home, benefit money still intact and offered Extra Cash, in the form of going to Rehab sessions in which are paid for regardless of whether they keep to it or not.

So if anyone else would like to belittle me, as an individual commenting that your tax keeps me living, then remember that your tax does alot more then that, it contributes about 10p to my JSA (Not been arsed to work out what it would be, but if you want to say 10p a day, week, fortnight take your pick, I don't care) but would it not be useful to go find someone stoned off their heads, on a day they were probably meant to of been seeking work, but just having a quick fix around the corner from the rehab place to which who has no intentions of getting clean, someone who tax payers should really go and give some hassle?

Which it will probably never happen, as they probably sold the PC they robbed from some Expensive house, for the bag of weed tney could not get due to strapping from their dealer 2 weeks earlier.

Actually yeahhh I will give all of you a Money Saving Tip where it will need less brainpower to understand the word "Constructive" why not search this Benefits forum for "Stoned Drugs Need Help" if you get something back, then take as much time helping them, then you did me.

WelshNic

mixtrixx wrote: »

It's not that I made a big deal there as what I could of really done. But by keeping quiet, and responding back to each time I knew these people were abusing their positions in threats of sanctions, I retaliated I retaliated with comments when going to the "Fortnightly Meaningful Contract" to see my "Personal Adviser" who was a "Temp" (her own admission) and was not even trained up to use the benefits calculator, to work out how many hours a week and what pay I could afford to take with Job Vacancies slowly make her aware that I aint as thick as I appear, threats continued at first for a few months, so I started getting a bit louder not caring who heard me, as she began to realize barriers I had and still have to get back into work, were not going to be that extra client on her already low shortlist of subjects to get into work in order to achieve her K.P.I. so seeing that stress her out, I then raised the bar a little, began to make people aware of things that they were forced to do, be nothing more then !!!!! dribbled from the mouth of a Temp, who STILL has an account on Facebook looking smashed out her face on her Profile Pic. the fact she is (if you can call it (working) does not make any difference into the fact that the block such sites which is becoming a major source of job search through social networking.

Any how to cut a long story less longer, I was never put into a placement for the 4 weeks which were to of been done with 12 months, as she felt it best to make me job search first, and leave getting job experience last (seems about as logical as to how DWP "Decision Makers" based their "unbiased" & "impartial" decisons were made.
When push comes to shove, and Benefits I has done everything I was asked to do, as well as be put under the stress to be forced to the point of having to get this clued up on the DWP, then, after she had been off sick about 3 weeks before I came off Stage 4, and when I asked about if I could pick my own place to go into, she turned round to say, there aint enough time to do it now, as you HAVE to do 4 weeks as stated. Then as her final attempt to blackmail me she came out with the ultimate scare tactic in which she implied that she had already sent 2 Sanctions to my Job Centre for failing to do enough to find work LOL ME, She was off sick more days I was, yet the 2 Strikes being sick a year did not stop her wages! So as soon as she said that I just called her bluff by saying, "Do you realize you were to of informed me verbally or by letter before you sent these sanctions to the Job Centre" Immediately she stumbled, but as all previous Retail Sales Reps do, they quickly recover. Unfortunately not quick enough to suggest to me that she was lying. So when she continued to act on whar eventually turned out to be nothing more then lies, to have the threat of someone like that to not even care one bit about my well being, let alone have a "Personal Adviser" job title, freaked abit, when I told her to say hi to her bloke, and if they were still living at blah blah street.

Information easy to find through a combination of Facebook and Deep Web Search Engines. Don't get me wrong, I had no intentions as to go any further then as to show her, what it feels like with threats that hold very little value whatsoever. That last week was probably the nicest person you could never of imagined to be for 12 long months.

All for what? Just to meet a K.P.I where it was in a scenario where she was under more pressure to perform due to changes meaning being in an uncrowded smelly building where the only fresh air coming in, was the smell of cannabis being sold out on the car park day in day out.

Yet, I can see why they feel the need to get off their heads if they were subject to that. You dont expect a hoodie to search on issues into what is lawfully right & wrong at the training place they are at, let alone still do the same 12 months and not once get bollocked about the dealing on the car park every day without fail, it was as if it was a part of their Jobseekers agreement in doing so. The only difference being they got paid and not penalized to do it, and furthermore, if anyone is found to be Drunk or Stoned on premises such as JC+ or Back To Work Providers, they are sent home, benefit money still intact and offered Extra Cash, in the form of going to Rehab sessions in which are paid for regardless of whether they keep to it or not.

So if anyone else would like to belittle me, as an individual commenting that your tax keeps me living, then remember that your tax does alot more then that, it contributes about 10p to my JSA (Not been arsed to work out what it would be, but if you want to say 10p a day, week, fortnight take your pick, I don't care) but would it not be useful to go find someone stoned off their heads, on a day they were probably meant to of been seeking work, but just having a quick fix around the corner from the rehab place to which who has no intentions of getting clean, someone who tax payers should really go and give some hassle?

Which it will probably never happen, as they probably sold the PC they robbed from some Expensive house, for the bag of weed tney could not get due to strapping from their dealer 2 weeks earlier.

Actually yeahhh I will give all of you a Money Saving Tip where it will need less brainpower to understand the word "Constructive" why not search this Benefits forum for "Stoned Drugs Need Help" if you get something back, then take as much time helping them, then you did me.

You have excuses for everything - and are more than a little psycho.

allen35

So when she continued to act on whar eventually turned out to be nothing more then lies, to have the threat of someone like that to not even care one bit about my well being, let alone have a "Personal Adviser" job title, freaked abit, when I told her to say hi to her bloke, and if they were still living at blah blah street.

Information easy to find through a combination of Facebook and Deep Web Search Engines. Don't get me wrong, I had no intentions as to go any further then as to show her, what it feels like with threats that hold very little value whatsoever. That last week was probably the nicest person you could never of imagined to be for 12 long months.

I'm sure i'd be freaked out as well, have you thought about claiming ESA

mixtrixx

WelshNic wrote: »

You have excuses for everything - and are more than a little psycho.

lol ok, I have no excuses to be frustrated that the person who could not operate a benefits calculator, have the same power to stop my money, where my home of 10 years is at risk, to undergo this kind of treatment for 5 years after I was "Fit for work" after the stress of being unfairly dismissed over a job a earned £300 a week on for 6 yrs to be constructively dismissed on K.P.I's enough to the extent in which I was signed off sick by a DR who has provided evidence to suggest that a work related injury (Frostbite) which will become worse over the years as bones become more brittle to the point of which tissue dies, gang green sets in and fingers literally "Drop off", leave me somewhat happy to let someone with no experience, who imposed everything that I had spent 1 the 5 years unemployed due to depression, in which I could not go out or even trust anyone, Is not somewhat going to want me to welcome with open arms to the extent in which I go through all that again?

Yet because they are temp, which I will vouch for as I have been going to the same !!!! hole year in year out to only ever see ones there that actually were polite and if anything are people who I can rely on to back me up as to providing proof to say I had not once caused them problems, to the extent in which my benefits could of been stopped legally, nevermind illegally if not following "orders" and not "directions" from someone I only saw to be as my ex employer who screws anyone over to get figures required to keep their temp jobs safe, regardless of what cost, is why I cracked like I did, to the point in which it's still winding me up now, but don't ever judge me on a case that no one has even come close to being able to of had the right to do so.

Badboy obviously had the same feelings I do, but although I chose to fight this battle on my own not giving a toss cos I have no income to stop now anyway, gives me nothing more to lose. He did well in his method of answering all those negative time wasting comments to the effect where language used has left his comment with no mouthy moneysavers so quick of the mark to respond to him after 12 years yet the JSA cannot do what do have either done for me which is provide help, me with Barriers, Badboy with an obvious Learning Disability where he needs help to support him in FILLING OUT CV's but No ONE IS TRAINED OR HAS THE DECENCY TO TAKE ANY TIME HELPING BOTH OF US BECAUSE THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH IT, IF IT WAS DEALT WITH 5 YEARS AGO WHEN QUALIFIED STAFF ACTUALLY HAD A WAY TO REMOVE BARRIERS FOR THE GOVERNMENT SAYING IT WILL CHANGE YEAR AFTER YEAR IS BOLLOX AS 2 OF US HERE ARE LIVING TALKING PROOF WHO HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BY MAKING THEMSELVES HEARD. OK SO WHAT IF ALL THIS LOOKS SOOOOOO BAD TO ANY EMPLOYER? I STOP ON THE DOLE BUT I WILL FIGHT FOR FULL JSA WHEN WHAT LAW STATES WHICH MAKES UP A MUTUAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN CLAIMANT & JOB ADVISER THEN THAT JOBSEEKING AGREEMENT IS NOTHING BETTER THEN AN ALTERNATIVE METHOD TO WIPE YOUR !!!!!! WITH RATHER THEN GRAB THE NEXT PACK OF TESCO RECYCLED MONEY SAVING WAIFER THIN TOILET ROLL FROM YOUR TOILETRIES STORAGE CUPBOARD.

There is the Government & There is the Law.

Either way, when you first receive notification in your claim for JSA, you are told how your benefits were broken down.
On one of these pages it states the following under the heading of:

HOW YOUR JOBSEEKERS ALLOWANCE WAS WORKED

"The payment of Jobseekers Allowance iis based on the amount the law says you are allowed to live on. We call this income based Jobseekers allowance
How much money the law says you need to live on each week - £84.10
Your Living Expenses - £65.45
This money is towards your home loan or mortgage costs - £18.65

Now as it's something the LAW is stating, is why it's so clear that £84.10 - £18.65 - Leaves £65.45 a week after mortgage interest has been paid to live on as the LAW states.

Where the !!!! does the LAW state that THEIR DECISIONS change to DWP likings where SIGNING ON 1 DAY LATE (NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW I HAD ACTIVELY SEEKED WORK FOR THAT 1 DAY ASWELL AS THE OTHER 4 THEY HAVE DECIDED TO OVERULE THE LAW & A SIGNED JOBSEEKERS AGREEMENT ON, be considered as someone who does not deserve to be rewarded for taking that !!!!! far too long and it's nothing more then Forceful, Bullyish & Undermining what the LAW States is ALL A BREACH OF THE Jobseekers aggreement which is changing as and when it pleases to suit the Jobcentre & DWP, but penalizes the unfortunate unemployed individuals that could end up having them investigated when claims made that Job Centre Staff hands out sanctions all of a sudden because they were pushed into getting results by harsher means and methods, not methods that magically change an agreement that has only just been signed. I'll hold my hands up to being penalized before I signed something, not allowing it to change when the pressure is put on people who failed to do what they have for me for 5 years now that they are being put under pressure. ABOUT !!!!ing Time.

!!!! me hopefully this sticks out, otherwise I'll be grinning tomorrow if you still cant understand my point, which is quite apparent that you have not had the misfortune of having

SO AM I OVERLOOKED? AM I A PHYSCO FOR RESEARCHING ON A POINT IN WHICH EVERYONE HERE DOES NOT TOUCH IMPORTED TOBACCO WHERE THEY PAY £6 FOR 50g OF GOLDEN VIRGINIA (OR IF U ARE AN UNLUCKY SMOKER WHO WORKS AND HAS TO PAY £13 INSTEAD OF £6.00 FOR THE SAME BRAND & QUANTITY, BUT DUE TO NOT BEING IN VOUCHER FORM & HAVING ACCESS TO CONTACTS WHERE YOU AS A TAX PAYER ARE PAYING £6 MORE THEN OTHER TAX PAYERS THROUGH TAX EVASION. YEAHH RIGHT BEING ON SUCH A SITE, ALL THIS TAX MOANING BOLLOX IS BEING SMOKED AWAY ON IMPORTED TOBACCO.

YOU PEOPLE MOAN AT ME? LOL !! THOSE THAT SMOKE STOP SMOKING YOU HATE PAYING TAX SO MUCH, START A THREAD



Next :beer:

mixtrixx

GilbertGradgrind wrote: »

You can appeal against a decision made by a decision maker on factual grounds.

First, you had signing on documents which gave you a date to sign on. If you sign on on the day that document states then you have not failed to attend an appointment, the Job Centre have failed to tell you of a new appointment.

I Was Made aware of the signing date, but the date in question was 5 weeks after last signing on over the xmas period. This was a genuine mistake in which I previously for so long signed on on a Tuesday, which moved to a Monday, and due to other problems I phoned Tuesday after picking up my old signing on card to then realize I had made the mistake. I phoned as soon this became apparent which was well before the time I was due to usually sign on, which happens to be the same time as it was on a Tuesday for so long, yet as I did not realize it being a genuine mistake, I could not contact them any earlier to prevent hassle I would of rather not had if it had not of been weeks since my last new signing on day was back fresh in my nind.

Second, you were told a decision maker would make that decision. You are entitled to know that a decisionmaker did, in fact, make a decision. You are not entitled to know their name but it will be recorded on Customer Management System/Labour Market System (CMS/LMS) that a decision was made, the date of the decision and when you were informed. You are entitled to this information under the DWP's Data Protection Act (DPA) and Freedom Of Information Act (FoI) obligations. In asking for that information, it might well be better to go through the CAB or a Welfare Rights Adviser.

Third, CMS/LMS will record letters sent out. You might well have been sent out a letter that did not arrive. In order to demonstrate that you will need to get confirmation from Royal Mail - or the DWP Mail Carrier of choice in your area - that they did or did not deliver in your area on time in the period the letter was sent. Over Christmas there is a lot of delayed post and Royal Mail do advertise "latest posting dates" and that supports an argument that you were not informed in good time to keep the appointment.

The only late letter I had recently, was one in which 2nd Class royal mail post arrived at 9:30 to which was on my day of signing, to inform me that I was to attend an interview with a Personal Adviser at 10am!!
Obviously, now already outraged at losing 1 weeks money through being late, to then have a letter delivered 30 minutes from the time I was due to appear at the job centre where buses I use run every 15 minutes to get to a destination 10 minutes aways was ludicrous, and after phoning and explaining this, my appointment was put forward to an afternoon slot, which when I attended, although I filled in the paperwork to provide what I did to "Actively seek work" the same as I have been doing for 5 years unquestioned but continued to receive benefits as I can only imagine it was less hassle to help me overcome my barriers back into work, now seems that searching the internet, where I am signed up to job sites like CWJobs TOTALJOBS Fish4Jobs, have active and live online CV's with up to date methods of contact available to prospective employers should they wish to contact me, as well as receiving emails from sites that are based on the same types of work in the same area and is Full Time and Permanent, as well as local weekend papers, was not considered good enough to therefore then have a decision made where the money I was due to receive 5 days later, was told would be stopped immediately. This with no mention as to being looked at first by a "Decision Maker" and was made by a "Personal Adviser" who I feel was a little bit more then "Impartial" in making the not so "External" decision she so quickly made.
So irate as I was left at that point, I just requested 2 Appeal Booklets, one for the first occasion where 5 days money was stooed over being late 1 day. And the other being on a day in which I received a letter through 2nd class post informing me of an interview I was to attend within 30 minutes of having it, was therefore noted by myself as being required as a reason to why I did not attend the appointment at the time stated in the letter. (Which I feel is something they are planning to screw me on as because I could not make it at that time, they asked both on the phone and again when I was at the Job Centre when the person at the front desk failed to see my name as I would of been crossed out (or probably not penciled in as having contacted them to arrange a new time on that day) was when I was asked by that person why I was late, which it's none of her business as to why, I explained why, I am not responsible for the communication for someone at front desk to someone 10 feet away to make her aware of the change.

So to me, everything from start to finish so far is harassment in my eyes. Which is why this same job centre in which I've signed on at for 5 yrs, and not caused any such problems whatsoever, probably due to being to much of a hassle to help back into work, as it would involve work, mean I am making my point the way I am.

Appealing is the obvious thing to do. However, if you appeal you will lose on a lot of grounds that are just technicalities. Writing a long letter to the DWP is not going to get a decision reversed. You need to do the running around to collect all of the documents that will be needed to actually make an effective appeal. You can ask the Jobcentre for documents but that is something you will need to go out of your way to do. You would also be better going through the CAB or a Welfare Rights Paralegal Service.

The first step is to inform the DWP that their decision was wrong and that you will get the CAB or Paralegal to clarify why. You will also need to inform your Local Council of the appeal in order that they do not start proceedings for the Housing Benefit and Council Tax Credit that will be due for that week where you had no benefits. You may also need to get notification from the Jobcentre that you had no means at all during that week. Which might go towards an argument to the Local Council that they should pay the Council Tax Benefit. You may have to find the Housing Benefit - as that is passported from the Job Seekers Allowance.

The only way that you will get the benefit reinstated is if the Jobcentre has made a substantive mistake. It is very possible that they did not and that you are going to have to live with it. Unless you can show that they did not update your Jobseekers Agreement correctly and ensured that you were informed then you are likely to have to put up with the situation.

The argument that you are currently putting forward is that you made best efforts to comply with your duties. That has never been good enough for the Jobcentre: you are obliged to comply with your duties except in circumstances that are beyond your control.

Losing a weeks benefit will count as a sanction. If you do not appeal then the sanction will remain on your benefit records. Other posters have pointed out that you have been unemployed for a long time. That used to be irrelevant until the DWP instituted the Flexible New Deal in 2008/2009 and now length of unemployment is regarded as relevant. A sanction is viewed as a way to move you into work. Regardless of what you now do, you are likely to be move to "engage" with a service provider to find work.

OK thanks for all that help and advice, that is much much appreciated.

Like I have said in previous comments, I could live with the actual decision that I should be penalized for signing late, but 5 days is extreme, especially when it's not a benefit suspension on failing to provide jobseeking evidence, which I did.

But then did do me for that, and did it in the way they did (Not through an impartial decision maker, and have money stopped on the spot that I was due on the Friday, I will not let go.

I could not even increase an existing overdraft for a temporary term which would of allowed me to at least pay outgoing bills before incurring admin charges when they bounced, and then have to pay bills, as I have no credit rating, where I have a clean record when it comes to paying the bills on time for the last 10 years through the bank I have been with to pay these bills!

The concern is, even the appealing ro reinstate my benefits I have lost, or at worst making do with hardship payments at 20-40% the rate of Jobseekers allowance, does not cover the further hassle of what I need to go through now with the bills coming out over the next 2-3 days.

But I shall appeal, as, as you say I'm not going to be sanctioned for all this nonsense.

I actually feel you have closed this thread for me!! WOW lol relief.

Oldernotwiser

I genuinely believe that you need considerably more help than the JCP or MSE can offer.

If this isn't a wind up it's seriously unbalanced.

jinky67

So just because your Job Seekers agreement says you will apply for jobs in such and such area, THEY are the only types of jobs you are looking for?

:rotfl:

unless you have major physical or mental problems i cant see ANYONE ever being unemployed for 5 years

get a grip of yourself and make a bloody effort