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  • pigpen
    pigpen Posts: 41,152 Forumite
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    Teenie_D wrote: »
    To be fair I don't think anyone is suggesting that there is nothing wrong with your daughter, nobody would want that or wish it on anyone else and I do hope you get the answers you are after, it must be very hard on you :(. I think though what a lot of us can't understand is the way you talk about your children on these forums, maybe they are terms of endearment to you but for others they come across as being very harsh.

    I think as well people really don't understand why you do keep having children, especially when you have mentioned the above problems with your other children. You have mentioned a number of times the problems you have in pregnancy, so why put both yourself and your children through that? I understand that with your last pregnancy you were very, very poorly what would have happened to your children if anything happened to you and why are you putting yourself at risk again? Obviously this is your choice and you are not answerable to anyone and to be fair it's none of our business really but personally it's not something I can really understand. :o

    Not that it is anything to do with any of you lot.. nor do I feel I have to explain mself to any of you in any way.

    My GP refused to give me contraception back in December.. and I was refused a termination with this one, I was going to go ahead with one without even telling OH about the pregnancy.. so unless I miscarry I am stuck with it.. given what some of you have gone through to get pregnant in the first place I felt it best to keep that to myself.. but seeing as you asked.

    I am not harsh.. blunt, to the point, tactless definitely.. and I often can't be bothered to type extra words because I am feeding the baby or on my way out the door.

    I find it odd people would want only 1 or 2 children.. or even none.. but each to their own.. I don't understand it but I accept it.

    Why is anything any more likely to happen to me than it is to anyone else? Surely everyone is exposed to the same daily dangers? .. crossing roads are a daily terror for us all I'm sure. In fact I am less likely for anything to happen to because I rarely go anywhere.. I do school runs, hospital appointments and tesco.. hardly living on the wild side is it?!
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  • Cutterby
    Cutterby Posts: 326 Forumite
    wendz86 wrote: »

    Last day of work tomorrow, feels really weird! Getting taken for a nice lunch at jamie olivers restaurant and they are taking my computer away at lunch as they are reshuffling so will only really be working in the morning.

    Hurrah for last day!! Enjoy your lunch! x
    I'm back to work tomorrow after having nearly 3 weeks off-using up my hol from this year, but i'm only back for 10 days before i start maternity leave, as my boss was being an awkward so and so and wouldn't let me take the next 10 days as hol-oh well, if i have baby early and have to finish early then it serves him right!!! although i still have 7 weeks left so dont want to have it this early-although the past few days i've felt soo uncomfortable and strong bh (but not painful if thats possible??!!??) that i've been convinced my waters were going to go lol think i'm paranoid as the other 2 were early (ds 1 at 38 weeks, and ds 2 at 36 weeks)

    sorry, bit of a pointless post really :rotfl::rotfl:

    Woo for only having to work 10 more days M&M! Hope they fly by and Bubs doesn't arrive too soon! x
    Doglover wrote: »
    Evening ladies, congrats GFH and enjoy tomoz Wendz!

    Talking of counting down the days I've got my 20 wk scan tomorrow and I'm petrified!! I hope to be back with a good report then.

    Good luck for your scan - here's hoping Bubs co-operates - we had to go back for another as ours was fast asleep and wouldn't uncurl for anyone!! :rotfl: Don't forget pics ;) x
    All horses deserve, at least once in their lives, to be loved by a little girl.

  • Cutterby
    Cutterby Posts: 326 Forumite
    Teenie_D wrote: »
    I think though what a lot of us can't understand is the way you talk about your children on these forums, maybe they are terms of endearment to you but for others they come across as being very harsh.

    I think as well people really don't understand why you do keep having children, especially when you have mentioned the above problems with your other children. You have mentioned a number of times the problems you have in pregnancy, so why put both yourself and your children through that? I understand that with your last pregnancy you were very, very poorly what would have happened to your children if anything happened to you and why are you putting yourself at risk again? Obviously this is your choice and you are not answerable to anyone and to be fair it's none of our business really but personally it's not something I can really understand. :o

    :T
    madbird wrote: »

    To be honest with you I think your descriptives of your children is what upsets people here most and the manor in which you say you deal with them. You've called your youngest a little git at times which in my opinion isn't a nice way to speak about a 7 month old who can't know any better. May be "playing up" would be a better phrase. I know its an anonymous forum for you to offload on but sometimes there is a time and a place and all that....

    :T



    You both said it far better than I did - and you're both right about what got my back up. For me there's a world of difference between letting off steam and what has been said recently.
    All horses deserve, at least once in their lives, to be loved by a little girl.

  • pigpen
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    madbird wrote: »
    Has an alternative been discussed, if she tries hard then maybe she'd do even better with the other issues being addressed at the same time by people who can give the attention and support she needs. She can't be that much of a !!!!!! if she is bothered to try hard and is doing well. As a teacher my brother always says he will help those who may not be the brightest but are willing to learn and get on.

    If pushed she tends to have a meltdown so we focus on over praise of the achievements.. she isn't naturally talented with maths in particular and we do stuff at home to help her but it all is on her terms.. very much like dealing with a toddler. Bizarrely, she learned to tell the time in about 5 minutes! So she got bought a watch as a nice surprise and reward.

    To be honest with you I think your descriptives of your children is what upsets people here most and the manor in which you say you deal with them. You've called your youngest a little git at times which in my opinion isn't a nice way to speak about a 7 month old who can't know any better. May be "playing up" would be a better phrase. I know its an anonymous forum for you to offload on but sometimes there is a time and a place and all that....

    that is splitting hairs.. I do actually call them as a collective the rats.. or grubs... rats run all over everything and get everywhere and you are never for than a few feet away from one.. and grubs eat.. constantly.. they get locusts for the same reason.. I don't see how that is in any way derogatory.

    And I think you are maybe being a little soppy.. nothing wrong with soppy.. but you'll just have to bear with me on that one because that ain't gonna change.
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  • Teenie_D
    Teenie_D Posts: 2,270 Forumite
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    pigpen wrote: »
    Why is anything any more likely to happen to me than it is to anyone else? Surely everyone is exposed to the same daily dangers? .. crossing roads are a daily terror for us all I'm sure. In fact I am less likely for anything to happen to because I rarely go anywhere.. I do school runs, hospital appointments and tesco.. hardly living on the wild side is it?!

    I meant when you were pregnant the last time, obviously everyone is exposed to the dangers you are talking about, but not everyone goes throught the same problems you encountered with your last pregnancy, I understand that you were very ill what I don't understand is why you would want to risk that again.
    "That's no reason to cry. One cries because one is sad. For example, I cry because others are stupid, and that makes me sad."
  • madbird_2
    madbird_2 Posts: 703 Forumite
    pigpen wrote: »
    that is splitting hairs.. I do actually call them as a collective the rats.. or grubs... rats run all over everything and get everywhere and you are never for than a few feet away from one.. and grubs eat.. constantly.. they get locusts for the same reason.. I don't see how that is in any way derogatory.

    And I think you are maybe being a little soppy.. nothing wrong with soppy.. but you'll just have to bear with me on that one because that ain't gonna change.

    Not soppy, I don't do soppy unless its to do with my cat. Nope just an honest opinion I've given you, same as you give yours - but you do blunt and at times tactless as you said yourself!
    :heart2:Baby boy madbird arrived 15/06/11 by emergency csection weighing 9lb 13oz:eek: love him so much xx:heart2:
  • sharkeybabe
    sharkeybabe Posts: 480 Forumite
    pigpen wrote: »
    Have you actually read any of my posts? Clearly not...

    I, being a decent parent, have my daughter in bed where she has been for the last hour.. as is proper.

    I never asked you to look after my children, when I do, then you may complain, until then I suggest you mind your own uninformed bigotted business... and rememer it is them who will be paying your health care and pension when you are old and coffin dodging


    i have read your posts and i still feel it is disgusting talking about a child especially one of your own when you express near enough no patience to a childs probable frustration , i still feel as a parent you as a mum should be providing more love and support, as for your comment of your children supporting myself in future years there will be no need as im only 25 years of age and working i have more sense to work hard and save for my future and my daughter not like some people who will continuely have children and live of the state and taxpayers like myself, i presume you dont work oops sorry why should you when you probably earn more than some hard working mums who do.work think ive said enougth as i need to get my daughter ready for bed.
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  • pigpen
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    Teenie_D wrote: »
    I meant when you were pregnant the last time, obviously everyone is exposed to the dangers you are talking about, but not everyone goes throught the same problems you encountered with your last pregnancy, I understand that you were very ill what I don't understand is why you would want to risk that again.

    I didn't want to.. but when the doc refused contraception in December I wasn't having periods so it was ok for a bit.. by the time I got children back to school and through the manic round of January physio/growth clinic/bedwetting clinic/podiatry/orthopaedics and stinking cold.. and was pregnant by the time I got a docs appointment. You have to ring at 8am for an appointment that day.. by 8:45 every appointment has gone.. I have the children to get ready for school so it usually takes me a week or so to get an appointment.

    I think some people have worse issues in their one or 2 pregnancies tbh.. pre-eclampsia, liver problems, abruption, aneurisms, haemorrhages.. give me SPD and kidney failure any day!
    i have read your posts and i still feel it is disgusting talking about a child especially one of your own when you express near enough no patience to a childs probable frustration , i still feel as a parent you as a mum should be providing more love and support, as for your comment of your children supporting myself in future years there will be no need as im only 25 years of age and working i have more sense to work hard and save for my future and my daughter not like some people who will continuely have children and live of the state and taxpayers like myself, i presume you dont work oops sorry why should you when you probably earn more than some hard working mums who do.work think ive said enougth as i need to get my daughter ready for bed.

    As I said.. bigot..

    The taxes you pay now go into the system now, the government doesn't have a big bank account and a tally of how much everyone pays.. it is spent immediately... and I'd wager what you pay in tax you more than get back in tax credits, child benefit or doesn't that count? No, I didn't think so.
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  • I have a general pregnancy question.

    This is my first baby (I'm 14+3) and I want to know when the panic/anxiety stops?!

    This is a much wanted child and we have been fortunate enough to not experience any miscarriages in the past, and for the first 12 weeks I held my breath, thinking 'I just have to make it to the scan and once I see everything is ok, I'll stop worrying'. Well, I'm still worrying!

    Now it's 'well if I can make it to the 20 week scan, I'll stop worrying' but no doubt that'll be followed by 'if I can make it to 23 weeks' and then 'if I can make it to term'.

    Please tell me this anxiety will ease off, I think I may go crazy with irrational fear otherwise!!!

    i was going to ask that very same question!! :D

    i'm 16+5 weeks and after a few weeks of being relaxed about it i'm in panic mode again and i'm petrified of it all going wrong. to help me cope a bit, i have little things to aim for, like next week i have my midwife appointment, then a week or so after that it's my hubbies birthday, then it'll be our 20 week scan. after that my big aim is 24 weeks :D i find it just breaks it all down a bit by giving me a few goals and things to look forward to and to occupy me somewhat.

    last few days i've felt a few kicks and squirms going on in there :D i love it but the idea of it is freaky the hubby right out! :rotfl:
  • wendz86
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    Doglover - good luck for the scan tomorrow, is amazing how much they have grown since 12 week scan!
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