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Apoca parking fine Luton Airport info needed please

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  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    edited 14 August 2012 at 7:21AM
    Just remember this simple fact -debt collectors are not bailiffs.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • Stephen_Leak
    Stephen_Leak Posts: 8,762 Forumite
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    edited 6 August 2012 at 9:35PM
    For you to achive your apparent aim of having bailiffs seize your car, you need to do the following.

    Ignore the PPC.

    The tricky part is making the car park owner, not the PPC, take you to court, as you have no control over this. And, unfortunately, the law is against you by being on your side.

    But if we suppose that you get lucky and they do, you can ensure you lose by simply not turning up to defend the case.

    To get a county court judgement against you, don't pay for 28 days. Then, to get the bailiffs appointed, all you have to do is still refuse to pay.

    You sound like a natural born victim. If you still consider it a fine or penalty, then you need to pay. If you now consider it a scam, then you needn't. I respect your decision.
    The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in my life. :)
  • I don't know how to prove i am not a PPC troll, i can say that i am grateful for all your replies. I will take your advice to research first before posting any messages.
  • ManxRed
    ManxRed Posts: 3,530 Forumite
    There

    Will

    Not

    Be

    Any

    Bailiffs

    Involved.



    PLEASE read this and let it sink in.
    Je Suis Cecil.
  • ManxRed
    ManxRed Posts: 3,530 Forumite
    tested2012 wrote: »
    I don't know how to prove i am not a PPC troll, i can say that i am grateful for all your replies. I will take your advice to research first before posting any messages.

    All you need to do is take on board the multiple replies to your posts informing you (correctly) that Bailiffs cannot get involved in this without you being taken to court, something you'd know about in advance, and which you could still take control of, if you paid up following the judgement (the odds of which happening are about 200,000-1 against).
    Je Suis Cecil.
  • Oopsadaisy
    Oopsadaisy Posts: 1,818 Forumite
    My advice is to pay up and then you can stop worrying.
    Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why then you're as thick and stupid as the moderators on here - MSE ForumTeam
  • Dear, All
    I have become another victim of APCOA @ Luton airport. I have come up to speed with all the threads posted in this matter, and I' am inclined to follow suit and ignore the "Enforcement Notice" but I must admit I'm really scarred. If the letters continue coming with increased fine amount (currently £80 if settled after 14 days, £40 if before) and it becomes apparent that I'm legally obliged to pay up then I'm going to be out of pocket. I simply cannot be in that position, whilst composing this I still thinking I should settle it and be at peace. Please can anyone tell me if they have actually lost this waiting game and/or know of anyone who has and had to pay out eventually, if so what was the amount payed out? has anyone actually received a legally binding court order? or a ccj? I should be grateful for any feedback good or bed, on my income and family commitment I don't think I can take a hit at whatever the amount this could escalate to, I'd rather settle it now within 14 days @ £40.

    Vaillant
  • pogofish
    pogofish Posts: 10,853 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Read the thread - then look at some of the many other APCOA threads here.

    You will not find a single person who has had any consequences from ignoring them, because there are none!

    Stop worrying and giving these empty threats any credence at all! :)
  • Oopsadaisy
    Oopsadaisy Posts: 1,818 Forumite
    Vaillant wrote: »
    .., whilst composing this I still thinking I should settle it and be at peace. ..

    Go ahead then, send them the money and then you can be at peace..........safe in the knowledge that you've been a complete mug/idiot/numptie for paying them.
    Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why then you're as thick and stupid as the moderators on here - MSE ForumTeam
  • HO87
    HO87 Posts: 4,296 Forumite
    Vaillant wrote: »
    If the letters continue coming with increased fine amount (currently £80 if settled after 14 days, £40 if before) and it becomes apparent that I'm legally obliged to pay up then I'm going to be out of pocket.
    For APCOA to be able to prove that you were "legally obliged" they'd have to take the matter to court. They have never issued proceedings in respect of any so-called Jackanory made-it-up-as-we-go-along infringements at Luton Airport against anyone. Why would they start with you?
    Vaillant wrote: »
    I simply cannot be in that position
    You aren't and you never will be. We know categorically that despite the tens of thousands of threats APCOA produced across the whole country (which includes the Luton Airport milchcow) in 2011 in not one, single solitary case did they issue proceedings. They never have been near court and never will do. It isn't part of their business model which is based on concentrating on those poor souls who simply stump up their money regardless.
    Vaillant wrote: »
    Please can anyone tell me if they have actually lost this waiting game and/or know of anyone who has and had to pay out eventually, if so what was the amount payed out? has anyone actually received a legally binding court order? or a ccj? I should be grateful for any feedback good or bed, on my income and family commitment I don't think I can take a hit at whatever the amount this could escalate to, I'd rather settle it now within 14 days @ £40.

    Vaillant
    See above. Boiling it down to gravy, Vaillant, in 2011 a total of 1.8 million private parking invoices were issued. Out of these it is estimated that 30% were not paid (that is the British Parking Association's own figure) giving a total of some 540,000. In just 845 cases did private parking companies issue court proceedings. Of these only 49 were actually heard before a court and the companies won only 25 of these. So the odds are remarkably favourable and the more so when you realise that APCOA didn't issue proceedings at all. Not one.

    Stop worrying at this. It will go away.

    For the record. I am one of the exceptions that proves the rule. I was taken to court by a private parking company (now long since defunct). Oh, and I won because they had no case - like any company that feigns authority.
    My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016). :(

    For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com
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